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I've finished the Shane Speal Outlaw series and even if I do say so myself I think they came out pretty good.First off I want to thank Shane for giving me the go ahead to use his pictures on these puppies. I figure he was the guy that got me hooked on this stuff so it was fitting to do a little tribute to the guy. Plus I'm hoping his mug raises the sales value on them LOL They are on E bay if anyone would care to have a gander. Or you can see pics of them on my page.The piezo trick I got from Jason Hitesman works like a champ! Not only is there no feedback what so ever, I can't even get feedback if I try! So BIG thinks to Jason!I have tons of other ideas for CBGs, 2 strings, and even some diddly bo's. Having an art background seems to lend me more to the designing of CBGs than the actual playing LOL I still sound like a alley cat trying to get out of a wet sack when I play LOL I guess that will just come with time and practice.Thank you so much to everyone who has given me help and moral support along the way and I hope I can keep turning out cool CBGs.Peace Y'all,BigB
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new kid on the block

Hi everyone

I'm not really used to this "Ning" thing, and I still have to discover how things work
on here, so I don't know where I need to post a presentation of myself on this forum...
ok, let's try here :D

After a long time at reading and listening to Cigar Box Nation, I finally took
time to register and create a profile on the forum :-)

Little Big One

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Well, I've lurked around the net for long enough that the CBG bug totally infected me. I had this twelve dollar beater from a flea market that was unplayable as a fretted electric, so I harvested from it to build this hybrid. I usually play a Rickenbacker lap steel, and thought this would at least be an 'eye-catcher'. I'm wowed at how this thing sounds thru a dinky practice amp! More pictures are at my profile.


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#s 8 through 12

I've been a little busy creating CBGs #8 through #12, so I haven't added anything here for a while. Take a look and let me know what you think, and any recommendations you may have.
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I really need to get videos up but in the interim, here is the basic setup for Google SketchUp.

First thing, GSU is built for rendering large objects like buildings and towers. Not necessarily small parts like we use, so using GSU for CBGs can be challenging. The zoom you need makes handling the rendering hard as GSU wants to pan or orbit proportionately large.

As well, since GSU is architectural scale, I make a default template so that I am zoomed in to scale and don't have to do that all the time.

Setup 1) I open GSU and create a small rectangle (it helps to anchor the view) at the 0/0/0 axis point, then zoom in so that I can draw a 2"x2" rectangle and actually see it. I remove the larger rectangle that I created earlier too. I change the Units under Model Info to what you see here:


Note the use of Architectural for the inch fractions and the precision on length and angle. I remove the snapping as it's a pain to deal with.


I save the file as a .skp file in 'C:\Program Files\Google\Google SketchUp 7\Resources\en-US\Templates' . This is where the program templates are stored. I then select this as my default template under Window>Preferences>Templates and select the filename of the template I created.



From there, every time I open GSU I am at the correct zoom and template. You can change anything else you need, but these are the biggest ones.


-WY


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Dunno.

Didn't know where else to put this link really, has some useful info on it.


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cyberferal.com/UncleBob/images/FretBoardTemplateTN.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cyberferal.com/UncleBob/manufacture.html&usg=__t46l7ozZGALuSYBxzsCk6X4alGE=&h=204&w=286&sz=26&hl=en&start=41&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=BXn0mSLcoUBzfM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfret%2Btemplate%26start%3D36%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1


I've applied the neck template to my the cookie tin three stringer I'm making for my friend, and I find his tuner interesting, I might build one my self someday. As far as the three stringer goes, I'm just about done with it. Gonna finish fretting it, then assemble it play it a bit then post some pics. I strung one string on it half assed earlier and even without a nut and buzzing on the then too-high finger board it had pretty good sustain and a nice metallic sound.

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I just finished a cbg lo-fi folk rock album. It is essentially a children's album (at least that was the idea when I started). I posted the cover art (supplied by my niece Audrey Withrow), the track listing, and a few tracks on my page here. If you're into homegrown cbg music head over to www.cdbaby.com/withrowkirk3 and check it out. Leave a review or otherwise let me know what you think. Thanks.


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Just wanted to let everyone know the tip I read or saw on the site works.

Use a small wooden dowell, drill a couple holes through the neck and the fretboard. I drilled one hole at one end and the other at the other end. Apply glue, smooth it with a card, put them together; then stick the dowells through the holes. I put some glue on the dowells before sticking them in the holes. Apply clamps. Let glue dry, cut off the dowells, and sand. The dowells are great to keep the boards from sliding everywhere. It is a great tip. To whoever I got it from----thanks.

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This is my first cbg build,need some info please.

I got from stewart-macdonald volume,tone and jack kit,I have one pickup on my cbg and the wireing diagram I got in the kit shows how to wire but not with just one pickup, can someone help me.
Also need plans to build the neck,I have some idears but still would like your idears also.
Thank you
Ps,sorry for the writing mystakes,I am french,sorry
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As a novice...

Thank you, very much. It was unfamiliar a bit to me posting and blogging, the web surface have played a trick on me, and that's why I sent a short bio like this. The documentation is NOT that "tabu" -address, of course.If you interested in the DiY-way of the CBG-making, the full link is this:http://www.tabulatura.hu/blasius/cbg/index.htmAs I mentioned, this is commented in Hungarian, but the pictures are clear, I mean. Or should I translate it?We in Eastern Europe are too far from the Delta, far from the real feeling, the cultural basis of the afro-american music.Hence, the European people generally think about the "original" blues, as something which is played by ZZ Top, perhaps BB King, and the others, who made the blues popular and "more consumable" - of course I don' t state this about every blues fan, but when I often show or play music from the original Delta, the people, claiming themselves as blues fans say "well, very odd, but this is not so cool, I prefer the" _real_ blues" - or else words they think so the delta blues is... boring, without drums, bass, fuzz and even Hammond...I work for traditions as early music player. This tradition is important too. When we play on stage, we often deliver so called "instrument-expositioning" concerts. (I'm sorry, it may be "hunglish", I've learned the language in the school) This means that, we speak about instruments; my corner is the plucked ones, lutes, lyres, guitars, vihuelas, showing them, playing on them, talk about their history, etc. I can imagine stages, where the folk instruments and the historical ones meet this special guitar, because, although the CBG is not a medieval instrument, but there are a lot ot similar parameters amongst them.Comments?Bye!
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Wichita Sam # 201

A custom build jumps over my "centenial" WS # 200....

Wichita Sam # 201

201.jpg 201 picture by WichitaSam

Its a fretted three stringer, fancy headstock, vintage (looking) tuners, maple neck, mahogany fretboard.

201soundholes.jpg 201. soundholes picture by WichitaSam

Nice little design feature with soundholes in the neck end of the box, a mahogany bridge with brass bar saddle, gold tone volume knob and a hand cut trapeze string termination...

If you want more, click below....

http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/jj317/WichitaSam/Wichita%20Sam%20201/?albumview=slideshow

the best,

Wichita Sam

thanks for lookin

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slide and frets compromise?

Hi. I'm new to this so please forgive the stoopid question. My first build is pretty cool BUT tends to play sharp when I am fretting a string. I don't want to bring the action down too far cos then it will be too low for slide. What's a good compromise. Any actual measurements of string height at nut and bridge? Thanks guys!
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Here is how I do a simple piezo pickup
A trip to Radio Shack will get you the piezo and 1/4 inch mono jack. They are in a drawer case towards the back of the store and most stores usually have them in stock. The piezo you are looking for is the 273-073 and costs 2$ and the jacks are #274-255 and are two for 4 You can also pickup a 25 or 30 watt soldering iron and some fine(thin) rosin core solder here or go to Harbor freight and save some money. Its all chinese junk anyway. If you use a damp paper towel or sponge and keep the soldering iron tip clean it will last a fairly long time.
Keep it tinned (heat the tip and run some solder on it before soldering) Cheaper and easier to wear out a cheap iron and replace unless you're going into business. Do NOT tighten up the little screws on the barrel too tight as they hold the heating element in. Do not remove these screws and pull as it will junk the iron. (common mistake) Give the iron lots of time to heat up. It might take it ten or more minutes to come up to temp. This is normal for a low watt iron and you certainly don't need more watts. Too big an iron will burn the insulation off and melt plastic not to mention stink. Speaking of stink, ventilation is good as the fumes are not very healthy to breathe. (just a small fan blowing across you will do the trick)
If you go to Harbor Freight you can pickup a "helping hand" for only four bucks. (11$ at Radio Shack) and also save considerable on the solder and soldering iron.
Here are the URL's
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47887
soldering iron 5$
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95861
solder 3$
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=319
Helping Hands 4$
The 273-073 piezo comes suspended in a plastic case as its original purpose is to be a buzzer. Since we want it to pickup the sound from our guitar and send it to our amplifier it needs to come out of the case. I have put together a picture story line to illustrate this. I take a pair of pliers and grasp the ear on one side of the case -squeeze and snap the ear and a piece of case off. You have two ears so two chances to get a good hole in the box to pry the top off with. I insert a pocket knife tip or small screwdriver in and slide it right under the plastic top so it misses the piezo completely - then pry the top up and it will pop right off. Careful the Piezo is suspended in there but its close to the top. Then stick a blunt small screw driver in the hole in the bottom of the case and gently push up. The piezo will pop right out with very light pressure. DO NOT BREAK IT by applying to much pressure. Easy does it. Now you can strip the insulation off the wire back a bit and twist the the strands into a single smooth wire. Insert it in the jack and twist it up tight so there is a half decent mechanical connection black goes to the center ring ground terminal on the jack and red goes to the lug that leads to the tall center pin part. Once twisted up tight plug the iron in and let it heat for ten or fifteen minutes. Tin the tip by melting a small amount of solder on it. Stick the tip in the hole on the jack and wait a few seconds then touch the solder to the tip where it came thru the hole and or to the wire itself. The tip heats up the parts to be soldered and then the solder "runs" up the wire and into the joint. If its done correctly it will all be silvery smooth and fairly quick. If the joint is not hot enough you will get a cold solder connection which is BAD. You do NOT melt the solder and drip it onto the wire or terminal. If the wire and terminal are hot enough the solder wicks up the wire as it melts - nice smooth and strong. Its not necessary to add wire to the ones I have built nor to put any switches in the circuit. I mount mine to the neck as it goes thru the box close to the bridge - I use foam mounting tape that sticks the brass side of the piezo to the neck - I use two pieces side by side to get it wide enough and then cover the top with two more pieces side by side to cover and buffer the piezo. This makes a nice clean installation and its extremely strong. Its also really buzz free. The foam mounting tape is double sided "Duck" brand 3/4 inch by 22 ft and 1.5 inches holds a quarter pound. Mounting the jack to the box typically makes me drill two holes - a larger one half way thru the box then a smaller one all the way thru. I have not had good luck keeping these tight enough yet and intend to use gel super glue liberally on the next installs to see if that will help.
When I get time I will put together another blog to illustrate how to double these piezos up reduce the impedance to closer to what a standard amp wants to see. Basically they are wired in parallel so that each set of leads goes back to the jack - so it would be a pair of reds and a pair of blacks coming back to the jack to use double piezos. Series doubles the impedance and parallel halves it. Parallel has a very desirable reduction in impedance. Another subject worth exploring is shielding the leads by wrapping copper foil around the wires and grounding back to the ground lug. This stuff is a bit tricky and care needs to be taken not to set up any ground loops. I need to take more pictures to correctly illustrate this.
Hope this all helps with any amateur soldering and piezo destructing. Comments and questions welcome - Bill

Fresh from Radio Shack, These are in a parts cabinet towards the back of the store. Piezos in one side and jacks in the other. Do not let the kids at radioshack BS you they don't know what is in the store. Almost always in stock. Look for them. 2$ each.


Piezo in plastic buzzer case also removed from case - brass side and ceramic side shown. This is what we want.

The one at the bottom of the picture is busted, I tried to solder the red positive wire back to the ceramic - overheated it and it broke. Probably not worth trying - these also do not bend !!

Grasp the case top and bottom on the edge right at an ear and twist a chunk off. The objective is to break a the edge of the case open so we can remove the top. (without breaking the piezo)

Just got a small bite - its enough though - I can get a screwdriver blade in there and if I needed to I could break the other ear off and get piece of the side too. Two chances to win this game.

Stick a narrow screwdriver or stiff knife blade in there right under the top and pop the top off. Stay close to the top so you don't bend the piezo. Its suspended down a smidge anyway.


And off pops the top. There is the piezo ceramic side up - brass side down. On the other side is a hole to let the buzzing sound out. Perfect to stick a small dowel or screwdriver in and nudge the piezo up. Gently!!


A gentle push up and there is the edge of the piezo, finger food now.

Another shot of the edge of the piezo up where it can be grabbed and the top removed.


The prize - a nice piezo transducer with leads factory soldered on . notice the red positive goes to the ceramic and the black ground goes to the brass base ring

Pair of 1/4 mono jacks - the center ring gets the black ground wire. The tall part contacts the long pin on the cord and it gets the red wire. Thats the left side terminal on the bottom jack.


Jack with leads from piezo soldered on . The black goes to the center ring - these solder joints are too large and would make an electronics tech sneer but they are well done and solid connections if not pretty. You can do this well with a minimum of practice. It works!

All soldered up and ready for a cigar box. No switch is necessary and the leads have been long enough for me to make them work every time so far. Simple down and dirty. There are better ways but no simpler cheaper way and it does work !!

ten dollar soldering station with jack held in extra "hand" This is the four dollar helping hand from Harbor freight - the five dollar soldering iron and the the dollar solder from the local discount store. I am not counting the workbench (scrap shelf board)

Another shot of my soldering rig - keep the tip wiped down with a damp sponge or damp paper towel - keep it tinned. I have never tore one up. Cheap but adequate for this kind of stuff. Probably wouldn't work on a LM386 project but thats a different story.
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