About to build my first instrument, and it occurred to me looking at this stuff before I start that my plan must be to surround the cigar box with new tools until it relents and becomes a diddley-bo.
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My favorite glue to use tho is (and I know peeps think I'm nuts -- which isn't far off) is gelatine glue or hide glue. Don't get me wrong, I just got a new bottle of Titebond yesterday, but when it comes to putting fretboards on or putting the lid on, I love it. I've had to "repair" some work I've done lately and having a glue that I can remove easier is very helpful. Search the Secrets of the CBG Underground for "oyster glue".
Like Sam explains about 'rilla glue expanding, hide/gelatine glue shrinks making the joint tighter. I know its highly debatable, but I have put parts together without need of clamps and have made some really tight, reliable joints.
-WY
Wichita Sam said:
Corey, In case you're wondering about the "ditch the gorilla glue" comments, gorilla glue expands on drying and will too often mess up alignment of parts as it drys. A good carpenter glue like titebond won't. Save the gorilla glue for regluing sloppy chair frames.....the best,
Hi Corey,
So far I have used only a dremel copy (cutting discs, flexi attachment and sanding drum) some small files ,a mitre saw (not powered) and a cheap jigsaw. Out of all of these the the dremel copy is the most useful. I have been looking around for a powersaw but I am still unsure as to what would be the most useful for my hobby (table saw, band saw, scroll saw, fret saw etc ???) bearing in mind the cost and how much use it would get. Also it would need to be transportable so I could store it when not in use and light enough to take outside when I want to use it - sounds like the dremel is the winner (LOL). Also a big problem I have is that before I have started one project Cigar Box Nation sparks off another idea....
Regards,
David
Corey said:
The addiction is to buying more tools! :-). A guy I know at a local guitar shop who used to build a lot of instruments said to me "Why go buy a guitar for a thousand dollars when you can spend $10K on tools and make one youself?" I do have most of the other tools you mentioned aleady. I'm in this for the musical experiment. I don't have room for anything like a band saw or drill press. And it's just for fun. A dremel, though ... hmmm.
y'know, I got the Gorilla glue because someone who's sound n work on these things I admire, Blues Boy Jag, said that he glues the neck to the top inside (his are not neck-throughs). That helps him make room for the pickup. I thought I'd get some Gorilla glue in case I wanted to try that sort of thing. I tried it even though I'm making a neck-thru, then immediately discovered it did what I was afraid it would do by messing up the resonance of the top completely, like putting your hand on a bell while ringing it. So I ripped it out and am going to somehow scallop out the neck inside the box. I do have only rudimentary tools and even more rudimentary abilities, though, so everything I'm doing is a big learning experience. My only power tool is a drill. I have a compound mitre saw but someone's borrowed it. I'm first making a diddie bow for my 4 year old daughter. I told her it was for making funny noises. She's quite excited to get her hands on it. P.S. love your Bicentennial stomp board, Sam.
- C
x said:
Corey,
In case you're wondering about the "ditch the gorilla glue" comments, gorilla glue expands on drying and will too often mess up alignment of parts as it drys. A good carpenter glue like titebond won't. Save the gorilla glue for regluing sloppy chair frames.....
In case you're wondering about the "ditch the gorilla glue" comments, gorilla glue expands on drying and will too often mess up alignment of parts as it drys. A good carpenter glue like titebond won't. Save the gorilla glue for regluing sloppy chair frames.....
Wes is right, replace the gorilla glue with titebond and ur good to go. I also find epoxy is a good thing to keep. It's good for gluing things that you need to set up quickly and non-wood items. Enjoy your new addiction!!!
The addiction is to buying more tools! :-). A guy I know at a local guitar shop who used to build a lot of instruments said to me "Why go buy a guitar for a thousand dollars when you can spend $10K on tools and make one youself?"
I do have most of the other tools you mentioned aleady. I'm in this for the musical experiment. I don't have room for anything like a band saw or drill press. And it's just for fun. A dremel, though ... hmmm.
Good plan, but I didn't see a dremel; vise. drill press or band saw. Seems like the sander and supplies and the mitre box along withe the neck and associated parts must be in the other picture also. But its a great start!
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My favorite glue to use tho is (and I know peeps think I'm nuts -- which isn't far off) is gelatine glue or hide glue. Don't get me wrong, I just got a new bottle of Titebond yesterday, but when it comes to putting fretboards on or putting the lid on, I love it. I've had to "repair" some work I've done lately and having a glue that I can remove easier is very helpful. Search the Secrets of the CBG Underground for "oyster glue".
Like Sam explains about 'rilla glue expanding, hide/gelatine glue shrinks making the joint tighter. I know its highly debatable, but I have put parts together without need of clamps and have made some really tight, reliable joints.
-WY
Wichita Sam said:
So far I have used only a dremel copy (cutting discs, flexi attachment and sanding drum) some small files ,a mitre saw (not powered) and a cheap jigsaw. Out of all of these the the dremel copy is the most useful. I have been looking around for a powersaw but I am still unsure as to what would be the most useful for my hobby (table saw, band saw, scroll saw, fret saw etc ???) bearing in mind the cost and how much use it would get. Also it would need to be transportable so I could store it when not in use and light enough to take outside when I want to use it - sounds like the dremel is the winner (LOL). Also a big problem I have is that before I have started one project Cigar Box Nation sparks off another idea....
Regards,
David
Corey said:
- C
x said:
In case you're wondering about the "ditch the gorilla glue" comments, gorilla glue expands on drying and will too often mess up alignment of parts as it drys. A good carpenter glue like titebond won't. Save the gorilla glue for regluing sloppy chair frames.....
the best,
Wichita Sam
Bandshaw is still my buying list in future :)
I do have most of the other tools you mentioned aleady. I'm in this for the musical experiment. I don't have room for anything like a band saw or drill press. And it's just for fun. A dremel, though ... hmmm.
Good plan, but I didn't see a dremel; vise. drill press or band saw. Seems like the sander and supplies and the mitre box along withe the neck and associated parts must be in the other picture also. But its a great start!