Hey all. I was hoping to build a 6 stringer on my next build, and would like to make my own truss rod for the build. I am sure there are many out there that have already done this, so can you teach me what you have done?
Is it possible to just drop a steal rod in, or should I have a rod that can be adjusted?
I was thinking about using a long screw rod, placing a rectangular nut on one end and a regular nut on the other end (for adjustment).
Lastly, I was thinking about covering the rod in epoxy before placing the fret board over it. Any suggestions on this? Should I wrap the rod in something beforehand so that it has the freedom to move during adjustment (sheath type thing)?
Oh, forgot...The neck will either be Japanese cedar or oak. The fret board will be Japanese cedar.
Any and all replies will be greatly appreciated.
Douglas
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carverman said:
round truss rod..but I'm interested in any innovation that will keep the costs down.
Is it too late to show a pic of it without the fretboard glued on?
carverman said:
Douglas Eric Marsalis said:
Question to Douglas Marsalis; Very nice truss rod solution, but in the picture with the truss rod/U-Channel inserted in the neck, the closed side of the aluminum U-channel (box channel ?) is facing the FB. How is the the threaded rod going to distress/distort the box channel as shown in that picture? The purpose, (at least I thought), with including a aluminum U channel is extra stiffness with an adjustable truss rod to change the shape of the ( FB)fingerboard (concave or convex adjustmen) to compensate for a bow OR
dip in the neck/FB. How would this work in the picture shown?
Matt Towe said:
Yes, I agree that an appropriate sized aluminum box channel (4 sides) would be rock solid.
But these are not always easy to find and require some routing in the neck. On a long scale
bass, it makes sense, on a 3or 4 string CBG..maybe not due to the expense and narrower
width of the neck.
However, on a 6 string, be it a CBG or a regular 6 string..adjustment of the fret action to
reduce buzzing is desirable. If one prefers high action, then I suppose it doesn't matter
as the high action (like a electric bass) will take care of any neck/FB fret descrepancies...
but on a 6 string that is tuned for the players specific playing style (and everyone is different),
then some adjustment like a torque rod or double torque rod (truss rod) is desirable.
Flat steel would have to inserted in a longitudinal channel (more like two--one on each side
of the fret board neck, and on their end..other wise there is no use using flat steel as
a stiffener because it will bend with the changes in the neck...nevermind the weight of
the steel, which can weigh more than a thin 3/16" diameter stainless steel rod.
Luthier supply companies do offer carbon fiber neck rods 1/8"T x 3/8 W x 18"L but these
are pricey too..$15 or more. I guess it boils down to individual preference..whether you like
a fixed solution or an adjustable solution ..or even a combination of both.
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Douglas Eric Marsalis said:
Jim Mitchell said:
Anywhere between 150-200 lbs. is common on a bass, so that is gonna be more than strong enuff.
On a bass, thats what I would do. On a guitar, the "folded rod" method ( fishbake in the first reply) I think would be fine.
On a cbg, probably the most I would do is a piece or 2 of 1/8" x1/4" er so flat steel to act as a "stiffener".
This is commercially done ... usually with graphite rods to keep weight down, but I think the flat steel from Lowes or HD or where ever would be fine.
Matt - IMHO