Help please with my idea

Posted by Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley on November 8, 2010 at 6:06am

Ok  this is the Idea -:

On my next build I'm wanting to use a coil pickup and a piezo

( nothing new there I hear you say)

 

But what I want to do is have both coil pickup and piezo on different phone jacks

so you have 2 separate jacks for each pick up. which means you can plug your guitar up to 2 amps with 2 different effects at the same time.

 

But I also want to be able to combine both pickups coil and piezo as well via a switch to one phone jack is this possible ?

 

Now I'm not that up on electrics and to tell you the truth this is going to be fun getting may head round the wiring so any help pros n cons etc would be really grateful

Soul......

 

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  • The Phrygian Kid November 9, 2010 at 4:27am
    if u saw my doubleneck entry, i did exactly this, using a dpdt switching jack for the second one, when its not in use that pickup is routed to the other output. dead easy. pm me if u want help.

    alternatively u can use a trs stereo jack and make some Y cables, i do this too. a regular mono cable will short the ring to the sleeve, cancelling out one pickup, a simple toggle can flip which one...
  • Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley November 9, 2010 at 3:11am
    Just like to say Thanks guys for all the help and diagrams given me food for thought !!
    i`ll post a few photos when ive built the guitar and let you know how i got on
    cheers again .......Soul
  • Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley November 9, 2010 at 3:07am
    Yep Mark thats baby im wanting to build.
    thanks for the photos nice guitar you have there

    Mark aka. Junk Box Instruments said:
    Already done something very similar - although a little more complex because it's two mag pickups and one piezo. See the following pics...

    http://www.cigarboxnation.com/photo/montecristocasterinternals-1

    http://www.cigarboxnation.com/photo/montecristocaster-body

    http://www.cigarboxnation.com/photo/montecristocaster-tail

    I've found it works surprisingly well. Several people told me there was no point mixing a piezo and a mag pickup but I've found it gives a tone that's different to either on their own (although there's a debate to be had about exactly why that is). However the ability to mix mag and piezo pickups was an added bonus and wasn't the main point of this build. I've more work still to do to see whether it really will work as an "infinite" guitar.
  • Mark November 8, 2010 at 5:15pm
    This will do the trick. It's a simplified version of my circuit (minus one mag pickup and the tone & vol contols). I just sketched it out so I hope it's clear enough. If you have any questions send me a mail message.


  • David L. November 8, 2010 at 4:44pm
    I think this should work based on the Artec telecaster diagram - Basically a 3 way switch with the piezo also wired to number 2 output jack so if you use both jacks switch to magnetic pick up on the 3 way and each will go via their own output. You can easily play around with the tone and volume positions if you want to control the pickups individually. If you use number 1 jack you still have the option of magnetic/both/piezo.

  • Mark November 8, 2010 at 4:34pm
    Already done something very similar - although a little more complex because it's two mag pickups and one piezo. See the following pics...

    http://www.cigarboxnation.com/photo/montecristocasterinternals-1

    http://www.cigarboxnation.com/photo/montecristocaster-body

    http://www.cigarboxnation.com/photo/montecristocaster-tail

    I've found it works surprisingly well. Several people told me there was no point mixing a piezo and a mag pickup but I've found it gives a tone that's different to either on their own (although there's a debate to be had about exactly why that is). However the ability to mix mag and piezo pickups was an added bonus and wasn't the main point of this build. I've more work still to do to see whether it really will work as an "infinite" guitar.
  • colin mcgrath November 8, 2010 at 3:26pm
    yeah, i thought that after i sent it. oh well, it had two pups (whichever you want) both wired to their own individual vol and tone, and going to a single switch to turn (?) pup off/on but one pup was split off to its own jack. that way you would have the choice of outputting only one to its own effects. ?


    Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley said:
    sorry i cant see your photo

    colin mcgrath said:
    kind of like this? or without so many knobs.?


    Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley said:
    Thanks GARAGE HERMIT for the jpeg.
    The reason i want separate jacks is so i can have two different sounds/effects at the same time
    ( ie one clean the other distorted or one with loads of reverb and the other flatt).
    but also have the option to add both together.
    The easy option would be to wire up them both separately i guess.
    And i guess it doesnt have to be a piezo and a coil it could be 2 coils etc.
  • Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley November 8, 2010 at 3:07pm
    sorry i cant see your photo

    colin mcgrath said:
    kind of like this? or without so many knobs.?


    Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley said:
    Thanks GARAGE HERMIT for the jpeg.
    The reason i want separate jacks is so i can have two different sounds/effects at the same time
    ( ie one clean the other distorted or one with loads of reverb and the other flatt).
    but also have the option to add both together.
    The easy option would be to wire up them both separately i guess.
    And i guess it doesnt have to be a piezo and a coil it could be 2 coils etc.
  • colin mcgrath November 8, 2010 at 3:04pm
    kind of like this? or without so many knobs.?


    Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley said:
    Thanks GARAGE HERMIT for the jpeg.
    The reason i want separate jacks is so i can have two different sounds/effects at the same time
    ( ie one clean the other distorted or one with loads of reverb and the other flatt).
    but also have the option to add both together.
    The easy option would be to wire up them both separately i guess.
    And i guess it doesnt have to be a piezo and a coil it could be 2 coils etc.

    k €820_ o out.jnt

  • Soulcatcher & His DooFa Diddley November 8, 2010 at 2:48pm
    Thanks GARAGE HERMIT for the jpeg.
    The reason i want separate jacks is so i can have two different sounds/effects at the same time
    ( ie one clean the other distorted or one with loads of reverb and the other flatt).
    but also have the option to add both together.
    The easy option would be to wire up them both separately i guess.
    And i guess it doesnt have to be a piezo and a coil it could be 2 coils etc.
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