Putting a different angle on 3 strings.
Double bass balalaika, alto and strings
Hi. I found this site http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_double_bass_balalaika_m1083.htm It's the first time I ever found a double bass balalaika for sale outside Russia and even an alto. I have written to this shop if it's also possible to order balalaika machine heads. This is almost impossible outside Russia. Shipping costs from Russia are very high.
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Deedee: Thanks for the tuners offer. As I mentioned, it'll be some time before I start building. That will happen after I do a lot more research, and also rebuild my workshop (which has degenerated into a storage closet, alas).
Really curious.
I won't kill you with my comments.
If you need tuners (the original Russian ones), let me know. I still have some.
Hi, all. I plan to build something balalaika-like in a few weeks. (I'm on a long road trip right now.) I built dulcimers long ago and my lutherie skills are rather rough now so my products may be more of like tin-can domras. Yes, plural; I have various stringings in mind: standard EEA; open GBD; and fifths GDA. I have a scheme for building hollow necks and the GBD might have sympathetic strings inside.
Will these be pretty? Nope. Will balalaika hardliners want to murder me and destroy them? Probably. I'll take that risk. ;)
I am using standard guitar tuners, and am basing my instrument on the one I'm using, with my own modifications, many due to my rudimentary lutherie skills. :-)
Hi Henry
That sounds real cool. That's the first time I hear about someone building an alto balalaika. Do you also use the Flynn book?
And did you already find the right machine heads? I haven't found any here in Europe.
I found alto machine heads in the shop where I usually order from. http://www.emuzin.ru/Netshop/machineheads/mkba5/
My friend goes quite often to her family in Russia, and then she asks them to go to Emuzin in Moscow for me.
btw, do you have pictures? I have the building process of my balalaika and other instruments I have made on handmademusicclubhouse.com (also profile deedee)
Hi
Just posted pics of my latest work, a bass balalaika. I used the Flynn book for the measurements and it sounds great. As usual the machine heads were the biggest problem, but I managed to get them with some help from my contacts in Russia.
Pictures of the building process I have put on handmademusicclubhouse.com
Thanks Rand, I'll give this a try.
Hi Rooster Reeves,
The calculations for fret spacing for balalaikas is basically the same as for any other 12TET instrument. You need to know the scale length and the number of frets you want, then go to your favorite fret calculator program like the Stewart MacDonald Fret Position Calculator. A prima balalaika usually has a scale length in the range of 17" to 17.75" (more likely 430mm to 450mm). Here's what I got:
These numbers agree with those given on page 42 of J.H. Flynn's book called "Building the Balalaika", which is a free download off the Internet. In Flynn's book, he calculates the fret positions using two different constants: 17.835 and 17.817. Apparently, the Stewart-MacDonald calculator uses the 17.817 factor.
Unfortunately, I can't recommend any particular cigar box for a balalaika as I have never made one. I'd say pick a box with a large internal volume (space) so you will get better resonance, and as thin a lid as possible (perhaps replacing the cigar box lid with a thinner piece of plywood veneer). I'd also recommend reading thru Flynn's book with the idea of adapting as many specs and features as you can in your CBG version of the instrument to better emulate the real thing. Things like a narrow neck, and string specs should also be important. But, I think the most important thing in making a cigar box balalaika sound like a real Russian balalaika is your playing style/skills. So, study those balalaika videos on Youtube, etc.
-Rand.