Looking for feedback on the feasibility of using frets on a guitar intended for slide. I am building a Fuentes CBG and would like to use a slide on it, but would also like to be able to fret. My intentions are to have a 24" scale on a poplar neck in a Casa Torano box, with a Cocobolo fret board. If this is feasible, how much clearance should I allow for the strings at the nut and over the box? I am new to building, and have not learned to play yet, having completed a fretted 3-string with a poplar neck and Brazilian Cherry (Jatoba) fret board (Build #1) then a Fuentes slide 3-string coffee-can resonator (build # 2).
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"The sound holes in the back was a mistake"
Think of it like this. It was a "creative misstep". Now see how much better that sounds? Heck, some of my early "creative missteps" ended up being used in future builds.
Like the look of that git. Good luck with your move.
Glenn's not a perfectionist - he just wants his instruments to sound as good as possible, no matter what style he's playing in. That's also the approach I take, too. Can't see why anyone would criticize that stance. But if you're happy with the way you do things, Anonymous Pick, go for it. We all have different standards, and the only one that matters is our own.
That being said, for me, two pennies is too high. But that's just my preference.
nick
hi nick , try not to confuse "criticizing a stance " , with defending mine . (after it being criticized.)
you may have to jump all over this thred to follow it but i think you can get the big picture then.
i also agree , " it is a matter of preference ".
and (for the record ) im talking pennies laying flat on the fretboard ,, not on top of a fret .
(incase that was over looked )
Ah frig it.
In tune is not a matter of opinion. It is or it is not. Yes, it might be Equal Temperament or Just Intonation or some kind of ethnic tuning, but it will be in tune according to a principle, not according to someone's opinion. And you think I build New Age gats? Why? Just like any other gat you can play anything on mine. I generally avoid putting up the usual G Bb C D stuff because I like to open people's ears to all the other possibilities. If you think that because something major and pretty and even jazzy was played on my gat then that means you couldn't play the usual blues stuff on it, you are mistaken. And a fool.
There is an ugly element here on the Nation. Some old timey folks resent people who make lovely-looking instruments. They think they are the keepers of the flame, and gats should be rough-hewn, out of tune, gnarly. If the gat is too nice, too well-made, too in tune, too well-balanced in sound, it isn't legit to this small clique of Amish beard-shavers.
I like them all. Rough or fine. Mine aren't particularly fine but I do like to explore different styles of stuff on them. I do honestly get sick of the same standard blues movements with the same over-bright distortion. But that's just me. All the best to all of you. Until you try to tell me that in tune is a matter of opinion, which offends my intellect, and my gats are New Age boxes, which offends my heart. Then I would just say something else.
lol, thought you didn't wanna argue skippy ..
i didn't say your guits were new age with a box on it .. i commented on your *** IDEA OF** A (perfectliy tuned) newage guit with a box on it compared to a traditional cbg ".
were you implying i built guits out of tune ? should i be offended ? lol, ( even though my current line does not even have frets ) . lol.
you've offended yourself by not reading carefully, .. and as far as your intelect .. well , that, and .. your jumping around under new posts here , instead of replying to the same one is eveidence of that .
not to mention , your self proclaimed intelect is the problem here ,, overthinking something simple and causing confusion .
funny .. the only person putting down other folks here and commenting on an "ugly element" .. is you . (ironicly while displaying one ) .
i like pretty guits too .. just as barn board builds .
i answered a simple question with a simple and easy solution . and my 2 penny from* fret BOARD" is not far off from the commonly used dime between *fret and string measurment.
If you want to call that "wrong " then i would question you own "intelect" getting in the way of practical logic.
and ,if you just want to argue and fight about it , .. or attempt a battle of wits with me , ... i would work on the "intelect" a bit more first .
Thanx for all of the input guys. Since I a total NuBee at this and can't play a lick ( I really get off on the creation of these) everything I read or hear is mana. My first build, was a total acoustic success to the point where I had several guitarist wanting to buy it so... being retired, I needed the money to make more. My challenge with this one was whenever I would attempt to play (relax, I'm using that term very loosly) slide, the slide would tend to "knock" against the frets - especially the high G string (tuned open G). I realize that it was probably my in-expertise, but just the same I'm trying to do another build (#3) and do everything I can to rectify that problem. Right now, I'm in Colorado getting ready to move to Mexia. TX for the next several months and I'm having a rough time meeting other CBGrs to compare notes over coffee (make that beer, wine, bourbon, etc.) So this forum is all I have. Thanx to all of you
Here is my first build. The sound holes in the back was a mistake. The box was upside down when I drilled & I didn't catch it. Turns out though, the sound was great.
CBG Build #1A.JPG
CBG Build #1B.JPG
oh jeez...I give up.
good ;-)
lol , .. and , ( in case you didnt notice ) .. i said "from "fret *board" to string .. not from top of " fret" to string .
(incase that's what you were thinking )
but either way .. we have both stated our opinions .
I almost bought a Model T but it ran straight. I was looking for an authentic one that pulled to the left.
then i think you see my point .
;-)