Posted by Alan Mercer on September 2, 2009 at 10:49pm
Howdy, my name is Alan, I have visited here many times in the last week. I am a lifelong guitarist and I really want to have a cigar box 6 string guitar that is well made. I was about to pull the trigger on a Smokehouse guitar from ebay but there is a guy there who listed on his webpage also on ebay as of today under the search cigar box guitar. He stated he just bought it 2 weeks ago and his webpage has ended saying that he has terrible buyers remorse from it. It looks well crafted but I am woefully afraid to spend that amount and if he is selling it in 2 weeks after his initial purchase from The Smokehouse guitar builder, I assume more to the story is about it. I am not sure if he is an outstanding builder or member here but can anyone recommend a well made 6 string, I have tried banjo, my brother is a talented player but I cannot play a 4 string guitar neck. Thank you in advance, Alan R Mercer
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LOL, I was just going through some old posts and saw this. I had no idea this discussion even existed. I actually remember this guy. This was a loooooooong time ago before I started carving my own six string necks (I was very young at the time). If I remember right, this guy's name was Mark (the original buyer of the guitar). I built the thing specifically for him based on an earlier model that I made, which now belongs to Lukas Nelson. It is the only guitar I ever made for someone to my knowledge that was then sold soon after. When I saw that it was up for sale I contacted him and asked what the problem was or if I could do anything to make it right. Basically, the guy said he loved the instrument but had his heart set on some factory job and needed the money back so he could get it. What a blast from the past!
Also, a big thank you to all the folks who came rushing to defend me. Very touching indeed :)
RTZGUITARS > Josh Gayou (SmokehouseGuitars)December 20, 2012 at 2:39am
Avoiding everything that has been said here and addressing the title. You can not build a 6 string like people build a 3 string they must be strong to handle the tension. You really need a truss rod neck and some mass in the box. My 6 strings hold their neck position and are stage ready.
Alan, I know you posted your original message in 09' but I live in San Antonio too and maybe between the 2 of us or if there are any other folks in San Antonio, we could use your ear their experience and my woodworking skills to build you what you want or need... contact me and lets see what we can do. I'm new the the building but have plenty of wood working and other experience that this doesn't seem like a very hard thing to do.... From what i've seen in CBG's
They aren't meant to be be a GIBSON or a FENDER... Just a Kick @$$ box that makes simple fun music! I'd like to make something along the quality of a FENDER from a cigar box but that would defeat the purpose... It's supposed to be a box with a broom stick and a hunk of bailing wire and a lot of talent. I made one from scratch and made one with a real guitar neck and am about to make my first scratch built (6 string) with electrics.
I'm sure by now you already own a CBG but I bet you'd be more satisfied if you built it yourself or had a hand in it's design. I know I did/do.
I can see where Alan got his point of view,,, when the SELLER states this at the end of his sale description, in the sellers own words- Quote" Please do not buy if you have terrible buyers remorse. " un quote. Alan, as I do, can see a hint that the seller does have some remorse or he would have kept it. Who ever heard of owning one dream guitar? Why would he sell it? The seller does have buyers remorse, he didn't bash smokehouse, he is only feeling guilty for spending to much money on two guitars. Now I myself would find a way to pay for both, I believe the seller is now selling his smokehouse to pay for his dano. I see no reason to "pile on" poor ol Alan here. He only misunderstood the sellers verbage in the sale ad, as some of you have too.
That is exactly how I read the thread: Alan was excited by the idea of such a cool find, but made wary by the seller's final sentence. I didn't see a slur on Smokehouse at all (and that guitar looks awesome, BTW).
I can see where Alan got his point of view,,, when the SELLER states this at the end of his sale description, in the sellers own words- Quote" Please do not buy if you have terrible buyers remorse. " un quote.
Alan, as I do, can see a hint that the seller does have some remorse or he would have kept it. Who ever heard of owning one dream guitar? Why would he sell it? The seller does have buyers remorse, he didn't bash smokehouse, he is only feeling guilty for spending to much money on two guitars. Now I myself would find a way to pay for both, I believe the seller is now selling his smokehouse to pay for his dano. I see no reason to "pile on" poor ol Alan here. He only misunderstood the sellers verbage in the sale ad, as some of you have too.
Hi Alan - and welcome! . . .
As you've no doubt concluded: you hit on a topic that folks here are pretty passionate about. I think the main point is that we view these instruments as something pretty special. There's an indescribable mojo that you can't really understand until you hold one in your hands and play it. Bottom line - "a well made 6 string guitar made of a cigar box"makes it sort of sound like you're looking for a "designer" strat that happens to have a 'cigar box" theme. That's really not what cbg's are all about.
While that kind of consumer demand is probably great for builders here that are trying to eek out a few bucks selling these things (nobody is getting rich - trust me) but the fact that you took the time to investigate the group means something . . . so here's some advice: Fact is- if you REALLY want to experience something new and refreshing - start out with a battered fretless three-string cigar box guitar, let the virus works it's way into your bloodstream for awile . . . . and you can work your way up to one of those top shelf 6-stringers. Along the way you'll discover something very magical! I guarantee it.
Sincerely,
K
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LOL, I was just going through some old posts and saw this. I had no idea this discussion even existed. I actually remember this guy. This was a loooooooong time ago before I started carving my own six string necks (I was very young at the time). If I remember right, this guy's name was Mark (the original buyer of the guitar). I built the thing specifically for him based on an earlier model that I made, which now belongs to Lukas Nelson. It is the only guitar I ever made for someone to my knowledge that was then sold soon after. When I saw that it was up for sale I contacted him and asked what the problem was or if I could do anything to make it right. Basically, the guy said he loved the instrument but had his heart set on some factory job and needed the money back so he could get it. What a blast from the past!
Also, a big thank you to all the folks who came rushing to defend me. Very touching indeed :)
Avoiding everything that has been said here and addressing the title. You can not build a 6 string like people build a 3 string they must be strong to handle the tension. You really need a truss rod neck and some mass in the box. My 6 strings hold their neck position and are stage ready.
Those are pretty nice. Maybe I should buy one...
:)
Roger Morin said:
They aren't meant to be be a GIBSON or a FENDER... Just a Kick @$$ box that makes simple fun music! I'd like to make something along the quality of a FENDER from a cigar box but that would defeat the purpose... It's supposed to be a box with a broom stick and a hunk of bailing wire and a lot of talent. I made one from scratch and made one with a real guitar neck and am about to make my first scratch built (6 string) with electrics.
I'm sure by now you already own a CBG but I bet you'd be more satisfied if you built it yourself or had a hand in it's design. I know I did/do.
Hey, I wanted a chopper and built my own
MZ-HANDYMAN
That is exactly how I read the thread: Alan was excited by the idea of such a cool find, but made wary by the seller's final sentence. I didn't see a slur on Smokehouse at all (and that guitar looks awesome, BTW).
Alan, as I do, can see a hint that the seller does have some remorse or he would have kept it. Who ever heard of owning one dream guitar? Why would he sell it? The seller does have buyers remorse, he didn't bash smokehouse, he is only feeling guilty for spending to much money on two guitars. Now I myself would find a way to pay for both, I believe the seller is now selling his smokehouse to pay for his dano. I see no reason to "pile on" poor ol Alan here. He only misunderstood the sellers verbage in the sale ad, as some of you have too.
As you've no doubt concluded: you hit on a topic that folks here are pretty passionate about. I think the main point is that we view these instruments as something pretty special. There's an indescribable mojo that you can't really understand until you hold one in your hands and play it. Bottom line - "a well made 6 string guitar made of a cigar box"makes it sort of sound like you're looking for a "designer" strat that happens to have a 'cigar box" theme. That's really not what cbg's are all about.
While that kind of consumer demand is probably great for builders here that are trying to eek out a few bucks selling these things (nobody is getting rich - trust me) but the fact that you took the time to investigate the group means something . . . so here's some advice: Fact is- if you REALLY want to experience something new and refreshing - start out with a battered fretless three-string cigar box guitar, let the virus works it's way into your bloodstream for awile . . . . and you can work your way up to one of those top shelf 6-stringers. Along the way you'll discover something very magical! I guarantee it.
Sincerely,
K
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