I found all the answers on tuning and how to play all of the Northern Thai instruments from this book: "Khon Muang Music and Dance Traditions of North Thailand" by Andrew C. Shahriari. This includes the sueng, phin pia, and many other flutes. It also includes traditional sheet music and speaks about the special techniques to play them. I was lucky enough to speak with the author, and he seems to be the ONLY American, next to Gerry Dyck, who can accurately speak about music from the specific area.
For the Phin Pia, if you are using Western tuning, it's tuned G3, B3, C4, F4. It's played using all harmonics on the G (sol) string. I highly recommend the book for a more in-depth analysis.
But the Thai / Lao Phin is a different instrument,(phin just means string instrument),mostly with 3 strings,occasionally with 2 or 4 strings,sometimes a double neck with different tunings
Tuning and nr of strings can differ from province to province ,also the placing of the frets,most common tuning is E-A-E thickest string is mostly used as a drone.Do not be surprised if they change fretting in between songs :D
Would love to get my hands on a Phin,but import&taxes make it very expensive,have to build myself...or wait untill we visit my wife her family in Thailand.
My Thai is not good enough to translate, 26 vowels,44 consonants and 6 tones is too much for me :/ you have to be Thai to invent something like this....
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very neat:)
I found all the answers on tuning and how to play all of the Northern Thai instruments from this book: "Khon Muang Music and Dance Traditions of North Thailand" by Andrew C. Shahriari. This includes the sueng, phin pia, and many other flutes. It also includes traditional sheet music and speaks about the special techniques to play them. I was lucky enough to speak with the author, and he seems to be the ONLY American, next to Gerry Dyck, who can accurately speak about music from the specific area.
For the Phin Pia, if you are using Western tuning, it's tuned G3, B3, C4, F4. It's played using all harmonics on the G (sol) string. I highly recommend the book for a more in-depth analysis.
Kawp khun krap ! Thank you Jason, for this valuable tip about the book,have ordered it at DCO Thailand.
http://www.dcothai.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_i...
:D and wai
Thank you for sharing. There are lot of very interesting cultural instruments all over the world. Enjoy the search...
could not resist the search, unfortunately for me in the US :(
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beautiful-Thai-Lao-Electric-Phin-Guitar-/32...
Ive got to get me one of those !
Another strange one I saw once in Cambodia , the Chapei, very high frets for bending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bm-1lgTnEs
Maybe take the Thai tuning instructions to a Thai restaurant and have a nice dinner, then ask if anyone could please translate for you?
Sawadee krap,
The Thai instrument on ebay was indeed a Phin Pia,or a Kse Diev as they call it in Cambodia (instrument of the heart)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGrNEeLLCk4
But the Thai / Lao Phin is a different instrument,(phin just means string instrument),mostly with 3 strings,occasionally with 2 or 4 strings,sometimes a double neck with different tunings
2 strings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYmkURr1SrY
How to make a Phin from jackfruit wood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpXuV-YVLz4
if this man says "Mai" he means wood, "Mai kanoon" = jackfruit wood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackfruit
Tuning and nr of strings can differ from province to province ,also the placing of the frets,most common tuning is E-A-E thickest string is mostly used as a drone.Do not be surprised if they change fretting in between songs :D
See the fret change and retuning here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPmQAJF4ZZg
A classic tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xTb72Ih7lY
Would love to get my hands on a Phin,but import&taxes make it very expensive,have to build myself...or wait untill we visit my wife her family in Thailand.
http://www.etheng.com/
These are considered as the rolls royce among Phin ,see the prices, add 33% tax and import :/
With my small knowledge of Thai language i found this about tuning :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2faG6QXf44
My Thai is not good enough to translate, 26 vowels,44 consonants and 6 tones is too much for me :/ you have to be Thai to invent something like this....