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Permalink Reply by Oelfinger on July 18, 2019 at 8:42pm

To make it worse, they probably used russian sheet, which was known for rusting very fast.

Much of the bodywork was made by hand. So they put one uncoated sheet on the other and set at every 3 inches a welding spot. (I used three times more) Water came into the uncovered gap and destroyed everything within a short time.

Nevertheless I love these old Robur- buses. They were very common here in the east of germany and nearly all of them have disappeared.

For me it's a childhood memory. We were brought to sports events, swimming school etc. in these buses. (they have 21 seats) The bus has a length of 23ft. and this is enough space for a nice camper van. I'm planning to use it next summer for a trip to Portugal.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Craig on July 19, 2019 at 7:45am

That's cool. We all tend to try and resurrect our childhood memories. My Dad would get cars, do some mechanical work and body work on them and then sell them for more than he paid. He taught me things along the way.

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Walter on July 18, 2019 at 10:48am

Hi Paul..

we've talked before.......would really like to get involved in your blog, so much good stuff.......question: why do the new "postings" not show up at the top? do i have to drill down to page 94 to see them.? doesn't make sense. thank you! photo showing steam bent wood being epoxied together: (can you believe walnut is in the list of top ten woods to steam ?! and red oak.)

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Permalink Reply by Paul Craig on July 18, 2019 at 7:56pm

Hi Daniel,

I started this thread awhile back no even thinking about the blogs that could be done. LOL

Usually the way these threads work out is: click on the title of the thread and it goes to the first page/beginning of the thread, but if you click on the last reply it goes to the last page unless someone has commented on something in the middle. Just the way CBN has things setup.

Didn't know that about the Red Oak. I have seen Walnut on acoustic guitars before. I want to steam some wood sometime in the future just got way too many things going on right now. There's a large learning curve to steaming and bending wood and anyone that can pull it off has much respect from me.

I think you have enough clamps on that one.Haha Gluing up neck assemblies require many clamps and sometime clamping jigs.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Craig on July 18, 2019 at 8:11pm

I bought something a week ago that's pretty awesome and once I finish learning about all of what it does, how to set it and control it and the results of it all, I'll probably start a thread on it. So far I'm liking it alot.

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Permalink Reply by Lonman on July 20, 2019 at 3:18am

Not yet decided what this will be, but I know 24inch scale, 3 string, pine neck, oak fretboard. Not sure if I will be fretting or not. not much room on neck for frets.  Am going to do my first blow torch look on the neck.  Any tips for blowtorching wood?  Thanks for looking. 

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Permalink Reply by Kigar on July 22, 2019 at 10:45am

If you can try the torch on a piece of scrap it would be good to get the feel of it. It seems like nothing is happening then suddenly it changes. I'd suggest a broader flame and not to close or you will get lines running across the wood.  Follow the grain, don't freak out when the little whiskers flame off!  Keep a bucket handy and have a safe way to hold as it will get hot. You can always darken more if it is not to your liking but sanding off char kind of sucks.

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Permalink Reply by Lonman on July 22, 2019 at 3:14pm

thanks for the tips Kigar. Looking forward to giving it a try

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Permalink Reply by Paul Craig on July 24, 2019 at 5:26am

If you run the torch down the length of the wood, you'll get even coverage. If you run the torch across the width of the wood you can get a uneven wave like appearance.

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Permalink Reply by Lonman on July 27, 2019 at 4:24am

thanks Paul for the tip

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Permalink Reply by Daniel Walter on July 27, 2019 at 9:50am

Paul, Red Oak and Walnut are on the the top ten list of steamable woods. Really surprised me. I made some clamping cauls, soaked the wood for a couple days then steamed them over a large pot of boiling water. clamped and let dry for a few days, then clamped using the same cauls and the two pieces of wood, glued them with epoxy, and eventually glued to the neck.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Craig on July 27, 2019 at 8:14pm

I know a guy that used some large PVC tubes for wood pieces and piped in the steam. He also used a big industrial steam iron too.

You have to work quickly with it, know when to start bending and how thick the pieces are you can work with for success. With that in mind, just about any type of wood could be used except for difficult grained types maybe.

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