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Permalink Reply by John Sawyer on September 10, 2015 at 1:37pm

First, not using a real Cigar box is not in the rulebook... a lot of guys in the UK don't have a reliable source for boxes...  I wish I had a laser cutter!  (maybe for another discussion?)  

Anyway, enjoy your first build, let us know where you have questions... we've all been there... besides, you look like you're off to a great start!

So... Slide?  Fretted?  The box sounds like a good size...  Neck wood?  I like Maple, but Poplar, ash, birch, oak, and most hardwoods will work just fine!

Looking forward to the build pics.  I'm working on #46...

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Permalink Reply by Steve Robbins on September 10, 2015 at 1:48pm

Thanks John...  No frets on this one.  I will build this one as a slider.  A few weeks ago, I got a nasty table saw cut on my fretting index finger (5 stitches) so it will be a while before I can fret again with than finger.  So for now, I will build sliders.

The neck on this one will be poplar... But I will experiment with different hardwood for future builds.

I will definitely have questions along the way so I will be firing them out.  Congrats on #46... I hope to be there some day.

Thanks,

Steve

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Permalink Reply by John Sawyer on September 10, 2015 at 5:03pm

Sorry about the finger, glad it was only 5 stitches!  Lately, I have been going back to slide guitars, they're a lot of fun!

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Permalink Reply by Hilo Greg on September 10, 2015 at 2:35pm

You might want to think abut some reinforcements on the inside, but it looks like an A+ so far!  

Here's one I did with a particularly thin box. 

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Permalink Reply by Steve Robbins on September 10, 2015 at 2:38pm

Thanks Greg... I probably should reinforce it a bit. I'll work on that now.  Thanks for the tip!!!

BTW... great looking young man!!!

Steve

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Permalink Reply by Hilo Greg on September 10, 2015 at 2:48pm

Thanks, he's my tester! Good luck and don't hesitate to ask questions. This is a great board with lots of generous people willing to share their experience.  

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Permalink Reply by John Sawyer on September 10, 2015 at 4:17pm

I love the JFR box, they sound great!

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Permalink Reply by John Sawyer on September 10, 2015 at 5:04pm

I found that JFR box worked real well with the neck glued to the top, and glued closed... sounds wonderful!

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Permalink Reply by Hilo Greg on September 11, 2015 at 11:26am

I'll have to try it if I find another JFR box. Thanks for the tip! 

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Permalink Reply by John Sawyer on September 10, 2015 at 4:24pm

As I look at it again, it looks like you are planning a large heel on the neck... Just FYI: a solid 1x2 neck dado'd to just clear the top of the box (I do about 3/8") that runs the full length of the box will hold just fine.  Any additional heel really stiffens it up.

From the box bits, it looks like you're not doing a neck-through, but a neck to the end of the box...  Are you planning a tailpiece, or mounting the strings to the neck?

Here is how I do it... but a tailpiece works just fine, too..

If you go this route, make sure your string mounts are protected (pop rivets work well), and are 1.5" or more from your bridge... if you get it too close, it's a pain...

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Permalink Reply by Steve Robbins on September 11, 2015 at 8:18am

John... you are correct.  I will not run the neck all the way through the body... and yes it will have a rather large heel. I have not yet completely decided on how I will mount the strings.  I know I must decide very soon before I build much more.  I am considering some type of hinged tailpiece... or the Mandolin/CBG Tailpiece.  I am going to glue all components of the box together so there will be no way to open it.  So I wont be running the strings through the top of the box. Since this will be an acoustic only instrument I am hoping that will be OK.

I like your Cohiba guitar.  What did you use for the bridge and nut?

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Permalink Reply by John Sawyer on September 11, 2015 at 8:47am

Everything I build assumes the box is not strong enough to hold up to 75lbs of pull, over time. So I almost always build neck-through, or neck to end... That way the box is not part of the overall structural components. In the cohiba, the neck goes to the end of the Box, the neck is glued to the top.

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