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Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone

Started this discussion. Last reply by gordon barnes Jan 2. 27 Replies

next Project is a 4 string cbg with short,(23 inch,) scale.  Coudn't find a dove-tail sides box, so using a maduro.  I play and like small,3/4 guitars so I thought a 23 inch  scale made sense.  I…Continue

Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone

Started this discussion. Last reply by Paul Craig Dec 30, 2018. 6 Replies

next Project is a 4 string cbg with short,(23 inch,) scale.  Coudn't find a dove-tail sides box, so using a maduro.  I play and like small,3/4 guitars so I thought a 23 inch  scale made sense.  I…Continue

 

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Lonman commented on gordon barnes's blog post cross-section sketch of neck install. by Michael Fred Johnson
"…………"And there will be a next time... because I don't think anybody has ever built just one CBG. It's an addiction. :D" Korrigan got that right, kinda like the potato chips, can't just do one.."
Jan 5
BrianQ. commented on gordon barnes's blog post cross-section sketch of neck install. by Michael Fred Johnson
"You can make contact with the bottom of the box at the ends like this? "
Jan 3
gordon barnes replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"How about this, guys.  I find another maduro box.  Since the bottom of the box is thin, generating the idea of inverting the box,  I wonder about  using 2 box bottoms, each with thin, but seemingly solid top-bottoms.  Sides…"
Jan 2
Taffy Evans replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"Hi Christopher, yes the top of the instrument is the most important component, but don't discount the back of the instrument, it's very important too. if Gordon was to thin the back/bottom (used to be the top) he would get even better…"
Jan 2
gordon barnes left a comment for Christopher G Daniels
"Iived in Marlboro, worked in Framingham GM plant.  Think I might have gone to Ahhhlington once to watch my daughter play soccer, over 40 years ago.  I bet you don't miss the traffic, I moved to south Boston Virginia, When I go back to…"
Jan 2
Christopher G Daniels replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"There's a good possibility I could be totally wrong about diminishing returns with the soundboard. In that spirit, I found Kasha/Schneider Soundboard Bracing Theory which is being put into practice at Makaio Ukuleles, which are…"
Jan 2
Christopher G Daniels left a comment for gordon barnes
"OMG, small world! I lived for almost 40 years in Arlington, MA. Or, as I like to say, Ahhlington.  I've got pictures of yet another "cigar box" I'm working on in that theme. It still motivates me.   I have no idea how…"
Jan 2
Taffy Evans replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"I've e got chuckle, Gordon it depends on your idea of heaven, not for me, I live in North Queensland. We get the same beautiful country and less people, except when the people from Sydney arrive in winter. Haha. Oh, and I have more guitars than…"
Jan 2
gordon barnes replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"When I was still living in Massachsetts, a guy from Sydney, a computer system engineer and his family built a house across the street from me.  When he encountered his first winter in Mass. I think he saw the error .  He had a calender of…"
Jan 2
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"Yes, the image came through, all right!..That's fantastic.  The peek of the neck looked interesting.  Is the fretboard inlaid?  How did the sound strike you when you first strung it up and let-er-rip? thanks   …"
Jan 2
Timothy Hunter replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"only one Taff... you're slipping..lol"
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"Don't know if the image came out in the message I sent,Michael "
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Taffy Evans replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"Ha ha, I've made up the spare bed already, no nead to bring a guitar there's one in the room already.  Taff"
Jan 2
Korrigan commented on gordon barnes's blog post cross-section sketch of neck install. by Michael Fred Johnson
"It's great to have some idea of what you're doing before you do it but don't be afraid to just jump in and start building... and if you get something wrong don't worry... there's always next time. And there will be a next…"
Jan 1
gordon barnes replied to gordon barnes's discussion Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone
"Hey, I see on your profile, or whatever they call it, you live in Australia.  My son lives in Manley.  If our idiot-in -chief, Trump looks like he's about to destroy the country, and I become a refugee at my son's door. …"
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scale length for pentatonic scale necks

Posted on January 22, 2019 at 8:59pm 0 Comments

Considering pentatonic scale for  fret board.  Are there diff scale lengths for pent. scale like there are for standard?

scale length for pentatonic scale necks

Posted on January 22, 2019 at 8:59pm 0 Comments

Considering pentatonic scale for  fret board.  Are there diff scale lengths for pent. scale like there are for standard?

scale length for pentatonic scale necks

Posted on January 22, 2019 at 8:59pm 0 Comments

Considering pentatonic scale for  fret board.  Are there diff scale lengths for pent. scale like there are for standard?

pentatonic scale fret board or neck

Posted on January 22, 2019 at 6:04pm 0 Comments

Anybody know where I can buy a pentatonic scale fret board or fretted neck?

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At 6:25pm on January 2, 2019, Christopher G Daniels said…

OMG, small world! I lived for almost 40 years in Arlington, MA. Or, as I like to say, Ahhlington.  I've got pictures of yet another "cigar box" I'm working on in that theme. It still motivates me.  

I have no idea how plastic will sound. If it surprises me, I could use a cheap piezo pickup.,I guess ironically?! If not it will be totally in character to have an electro-magnetic pickup. I might even be able to salvage original wiring!

On the upper right of the bottom half, you might see the melt marks which caused this to be retired from use as a UPS

At 7:27am on January 2, 2019, Michael Fred Johnson said…

Don't know if the image came out in the message I sent,Michael 

At 6:41am on January 1, 2019, Michael Fred Johnson said…

Hi Gordon,Photo of one under construction.You can see how the top and bottom of the through neck is cut away to allow the back and front to vibrate.The neck is glued to the ends of the box and the back at each end.The top(I'm thinking of copper) of this one will be screwed on.

At 11:03pm on December 24, 2018, BrianQ. said…

The middle finger was meant for Nashville, he didn’t like what they were doing to country music? From what I hear now, I don’t blame him?

At 3:02pm on December 24, 2018, BrianQ. said…

Welcome to the nation Gordon, any build is good, whether it’s a mod or from scratch? 

 
 
 

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