door hinge tail piece and plastic saddle??

Posted by Robert Christopher Hill on November 1, 2010 at 4:09am
Working on a 6 string build with a 3 holed door hinge and trying to pull two string through each hole. I'm not having a problem with getting the string through, but with how they rest on the saddle. They won't seem to stay evenly spaced. I tried filing deeper grooves but it doesn't seem to help. I'm kind of stumped here. Anyways, looking forward to what you guys have to say and thanks for the help. 



P.S. I'll be  adding some pics later to show you what i'm working with here. 

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  • Robert Christopher Hill November 13, 2010 at 6:11pm


    oooh..... cool idea. Mark Reaney said:
    I have been thinking that a hinge tailpiece might work well if you pulled the hinge pin, threw away the top half of the hinge,then reinserted the pin, using the pin as the place to anchor the strings. Of course this would work best with loop-end strings, but it could also work with ball ended strings, making a noose by running the strings through the hole in the ball.

    Mark
  • Robert Christopher Hill November 13, 2010 at 6:09pm
    Thanks Michael for clearing things. I'd like to try Allan's idea for my next build.

    MichaelS said:
    I think he means it would change the scale now that the cbg is done, Yes the neck you have on there would have to be changed if you move the bridge up the box. Alan is suggesting how it could have been done, or what to try for your next one of course.

    Alan Roberts said:
    Mess up the scale length? Nah. If the bridge is one inch further away from the tailpiece, your neck needs to be an inch longer. MIght change the balance a bit, but begin with where you want your bridge, and then measure out where the nut must go.
  • Mark Reaney November 9, 2010 at 12:32pm
    I have been thinking that a hinge tailpiece might work well if you pulled the hinge pin, threw away the top half of the hinge,then reinserted the pin, using the pin as the place to anchor the strings. Of course this would work best with loop-end strings, but it could also work with ball ended strings, making a noose by running the strings through the hole in the ball.

    Mark
  • MichaelS Country Boy Guitars November 9, 2010 at 9:08am
    I think he means it would change the scale now that the cbg is done, Yes the neck you have on there would have to be changed if you move the bridge up the box. Alan is suggesting how it could have been done, or what to try for your next one of course.

    Alan Roberts said:
    Mess up the scale length? Nah. If the bridge is one inch further away from the tailpiece, your neck needs to be an inch longer. MIght change the balance a bit, but begin with where you want your bridge, and then measure out where the nut must go.
  • Alan Roberts November 9, 2010 at 1:31am
    Mess up the scale length? Nah. If the bridge is one inch further away from the tailpiece, your neck needs to be an inch longer. MIght change the balance a bit, but begin with where you want your bridge, and then measure out where the nut must go.
  • Robert Christopher Hill November 8, 2010 at 9:13pm
    Thanks Alan, but wouldn't that mess up the scale length?

    Alan Roberts said:
    You have that tailpiece RIGHT UP AGAINST the bridge. No wonder you're having trouble. I would move the bridge a bit closer to the center, perhaps .25% of the way across the box. You will get more vibration and better sound there, too. Tap the box with an eraser to see where it sounds good.
  • Alan Roberts November 7, 2010 at 12:00pm
    You have that tailpiece RIGHT UP AGAINST the bridge. No wonder you're having trouble. I would move the bridge a bit closer to the center, perhaps .25% of the way across the box. You will get more vibration and better sound there, too. Tap the box with an eraser to see where it sounds good.
  • MichaelS Country Boy Guitars November 7, 2010 at 11:51am
    Next time just drill a few extra holes so the in between strings line up better.
  • Robert Christopher Hill November 4, 2010 at 10:05pm
    I was thinking that at first too matt , but the guitar is strung up and the saddle works fine now. I just had to adjust the angle from the tailpiece and file down string slots some more. Only thing is, when filing i chipped the saddle and now my string spacing is funky. thanks for all the help guys.

    Here's a pic of the finish build if you're interested;

  • Outhouse Instruments November 4, 2010 at 8:59pm
    I was gonna suggest o smaller hinge. It would get the strings in a better position to hit the bridge.

    Matt
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