Hi folks.

Just trying to get my head around pickups and wondering about the benefits of a three-string guitar using a three pole pickup. Am I wrong in believing that each pole of a pickup reads to the side too? Do strings HAVE TO run dead centre of the poles? What happens if they don't and is it/why is it better if they do? What about rail type pickups? How do they differ from the others? Are they generally better or worse? Genuinely just trying to learn.

Bear.

Views: 1186

Replies to This Discussion

Looks complicated but it would definitely help having the diagram. Thanks Paul. No excuses now I own a soldering iron, though it might help if I knew how to use it lol. Much appreciated, as always.

I've put a piece of stainless steel cotter pin over the poles on 6 pole pickups before and it works, but there is a slight drop in volume because it actually weakens the magnets some. So angling the pickup is better, but as long as you have one pole under each string you'll be fine. 6 pole pickups will most likely be hotter than the 3 or 4 pole pups.

Well it was labeled "stainless steel", but it did magnetically stick to the poles, which is why it did weaken the magnet and drop the volume slightly. Anything that will attract the magnet and attach will take away the magnets overall strength. 

I was trying a DIY hack for the Railhammer type pickups to test their ideas about pole types. Don't think it matters much.

Now if you attached a flat magnet rail or magnetized steel rail across the poles, maybe that would be better.

Of course that might mess up the pickups magnetic polarity.

A rail pup has one metal pole(rail) that has a magnet attached on the bottom or some of the older designs like the Firbird and mini-buckers used the magnet on it's edge in the bobbin as a rail pole.

6 pole pickups with magnet poles like original Fender pups would most likely be fine, but would be hard to do since they usually have staggered heights.

 6 metal poles on top of a single magnet will lose strength if more metal is stuck across the poles. The magnet will attract the added metal and lessen it's overall strength.

The later is the type of pickups I used to do my test with. Yes it will distribute the magnetic field over a larger area, but it will draw more strength from the source resulting in loss of output. The enlarged field will offset some of the loss of output which is why my test resulted in a slight loss of volume.

If you rob Peter to pay Paul it cost you more in the long run kinda thing.

Lots of great info from you both. Just sitting back and getting edumacated! Really helpful so thanks muchly chaps. 

RSS

The Essential Pages

New to Cigar Box Nation? How to Play Cigar Box GuitarsFree Plans & How to Build Cigar Box GuitarsCigar Box Guitar Building BasicsCigar Box Guitar Parts Store

Site Sponsor

Recommended Links & Resources

Discussion Forum

Psycho knob install

Started by bizzaro guitaro. Last reply by Paul Craig Jan 31. 16 Replies

Splitting P-Bass pickups?

Started by John Mark Perchalski. Last reply by Paul Craig Jan 30. 3 Replies

Wickedbucker + Piezo +Volume Jack

Started by Adam Jellison. Last reply by Paul Craig Jan 16. 7 Replies

Output method

Started by Holly Hodson. Last reply by KOOL DOG HOOCH Sep 22, 2019. 5 Replies

Creackle from Volume and Tone pots

Started by Arthur Payne. Last reply by KOOL DOG HOOCH Sep 22, 2019. 4 Replies

Dealing with hum...

Started by James Pobog. Last reply by KOOL DOG HOOCH Sep 22, 2019. 6 Replies

Copper foil tape as shield.

Started by Arthur Payne. Last reply by Arthur Payne May 2, 2019. 5 Replies

Why have a switch?

Started by Arthur Payne. Last reply by ILL GREEN Apr 12, 2019. 3 Replies

Problem with second-hand amp.

Started by Arthur Payne. Last reply by Arthur Payne Apr 2, 2019. 5 Replies

Added the CB Gitty “Psycho Knob”

Started by Tim Pannabecker. Last reply by Paul Craig Mar 8, 2019. 16 Replies

Lipstick pickup and Telecaster neck pickup. What goes where?

Started by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear. Last reply by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear Mar 1, 2019. 12 Replies

Wiring CB Gitty Black Ice Single Coil

Started by ILL GREEN. Last reply by ILL GREEN Jan 9, 2019. 5 Replies

Minimal effect from volume or tone pot

Started by Arthur Payne. Last reply by Paul Craig Dec 21, 2018. 9 Replies

Problem posting discussion

Started by Arthur Payne. Last reply by Paul Craig Dec 17, 2018. 2 Replies

Vol, tone, 3 way toggle and 2 single coils?

Started by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear. Last reply by Paul Craig Nov 25, 2018. 20 Replies

two picksups - both or separate

Started by Reynhard Boegl. Last reply by Reynhard Boegl Sep 27, 2017. 8 Replies

Psycho knob

Started by bizzaro guitaro. Last reply by bizzaro guitaro Sep 19, 2017. 4 Replies

Psycho knob

Started by bizzaro guitaro Sep 18, 2017. 0 Replies

I cheated and bought a solderless wiring harness. Naughty boy!

Started by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear. Last reply by Slow Blues Dani & Ol' Grey Bear Aug 18, 2017. 46 Replies

Latest Activity

3 Chord Ziggy replied to 3 Chord Ziggy's discussion Walnut overload in the group Building a Cigar Box Guitar 101
"I did the filler bit with the shellac and even added some sawdust.  I think it would work the…"
9 minutes ago
KOOL DOG HOOCH liked KOOL DOG HOOCH's discussion Building a micro shop for the work area challenged!!
18 minutes ago
KOOL DOG HOOCH liked KOOL DOG HOOCH's discussion Building a micro shop for the work area challenged!!
18 minutes ago
Darryl Tuttle commented on Rufus Pearce's photo
Thumbnail

Peg box (rough prototype)

"I am trying to figure out how you would use this...are the tuners homemade?"
21 minutes ago
Derek Rose liked ChickenboneJohn's video
1 hour ago
Derek Rose commented on Poorness Studios's video
Thumbnail

Grass (An Original Song)

"Fun tune Poorness. Def keep sharing originals. Good recording quality and playing. Was expecting a…"
1 hour ago
Derek Rose liked Poorness Studios's video
1 hour ago
Derek Rose commented on the anonymous pick's video
Thumbnail

Swamp witch guitar high desert

"Cool theme and GITTY-up! ;^)"
1 hour ago
Derek Rose liked the anonymous pick's video
1 hour ago
Derek Rose liked Downtown Vinnie's video
1 hour ago
Derek Rose commented on Downtown Vinnie's video
Thumbnail

Cold and Damp

"Sweet and airy Vin. Enjoyed it."
1 hour ago
Derek Rose commented on Dave Lynas's video
Thumbnail

Diddle Finger

"Keep that finger busy Dave. Smooth and enjoyable as always."
1 hour ago

Events

Music

Loading…

© 2020   Created by Ben "C. B. Gitty" Baker.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

\uastyle>\ud/** Scrollup **/\ud.scrollup {\ud background: url("https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/963882636?profile=original") no-repeat scroll 0 0 transparent;\ud bottom: 25px;\ud display: inline !important;\ud height: 40px;\ud opacity: 0.3 !important;\ud position: fixed;\ud right: 30px;\ud text-indent: -9999px;\ud width: 40px;\ud z-index: 999;\ud}\ud.scrollup:hover {\ud opacity:0.99!important;\ud}\ud \uascript type="text/javascript">\ud x$(document).ready(function(){\ud x$(window).scroll(function(){\ud if (x$(this).scrollTop() > 100) {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeIn();\ud } else {\ud x$('.scrollup').fadeOut();\ud }\ud });\ud x$('.scrollup').click(function(){\ud x$("html, body").animate({ scrollTop: 0 }, 600);\ud return false;\ud });\ud });\ud \ua!-- End Scroll Up -->