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The simplest little resonator instrument of all. Please add links to plans, photos of your canjos and ideas you've found that make the most of this diminutive instrument. (The image is a temporary placeholder, I'll replace it any day now!)

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Canjo Tablatures

Started by Adam Jellison. Last reply by BrianQ. Nov 22. 5 Replies

Maybe it is just me, but I love to sit there and pick out songs I know or songs people want to play on my Canjo.  I own a couple of Canjo Song books from Gitty, and looked around online and found a…Continue

Can Cutting

Started by Mike Whisenhunt. Last reply by Glenn Watt Nov 22. 9 Replies

So I've made a few of this tin can banjo things. Having a blast playing on them. I've made a couple out of empty tin "soup" cans and one out of a beer can. I cut a few other cans to prepare them to…Continue

The Gas/Kerosene/Oil Can variety: a community image bank

Started by Diane in Chicago. Last reply by James Conder Nov 5, 2018. 7 Replies

If you've used an upright can on a chordophone, here's the place to show your work.I'm looking for an olive oil can right now, one of those really pretty ones from Eastern Europe.Continue

The Cookie Tin Variety: a community image bank

Started by Diane in Chicago. Last reply by Brown Water Jerry (Rice) Aug 17, 2018. 34 Replies

Post up photos of your tin-tars!  These are the ones that look mostly like this:Continue

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Comment by TN Twang on February 9, 2015 at 4:05pm

I'm used to calling it 6.5 in dulcimer tabs. I believe that the high-end music notation programs (Finale and Sibelius) generate a 6.5 (but I'm too lazy to go verify that right now.)

Ben Baker (CB Gitty) has been calling it 7 on all his tabs for the American Canjo Company, and I've got to admit that makes it simpler than trying to explain how 6.5 and 7 are alternate frets depending on which key you're in and watching people's eyes glaze over.

I guess as a tie-breaker we need to ask the people who make multi-string guitars as "strummers" with diatonic tuning. Do you guys put a fret between 6 and 7? If so, what do you call it? Surely I can get some sort of argument discussion going on this.

Comment by David Bowes on February 9, 2015 at 3:54pm

TN Twang.

I left the #6.5 fret out, as it was for a friends little girl and I thought it would be easier for her.

Speaking as someone with no musical knowledge, the 6.5 fret(blue note) seams to allow more flexibility, allowing you to play different scales and more blues options, at least that was my understanding.

The numbering is confusing I thought it was known as 6 1/2 fret, most tabs I have come across  are numbered that way, but recently have came across it referred to as number 7, so I am confused. The question is, is there a standard?

Have a look at the link below:

http://www.cigarboxguitar.com/knowledge-base/video-the-essential-ca...

Comment by TN Twang on February 9, 2015 at 10:50am

Thing of great beauty. I'm gonna' steal your bridge design. Don't know why I didn't think of it myself. (Duh!)

I notice you didn't put in a so-called "6 1/2-th fret" .

I haven't been putting one on my builds for canjos, but dulcimer players are starting to expect them to be there. I'd love to provoke a discussion on this website about why the extra fret should or should not be there on diatonic fretboards and whether it should be numbered "fret #7" or "fret #6.5" in tablature.

 

Comment by David Bowes on February 9, 2015 at 3:17am

Comment by Wichita Sam on November 27, 2014 at 8:58pm

Glenn, I think you're onto something.  Sounds a little (If I'm understanding it right) like an early On-String Willie diddley bow arrangement.... I've never understood the concept completely.  Seems like the can becomes a resonator for the neck/brige and not the string....  Anyway, good to hear from you. 

For all my CN friends... A guaranteed way to have a "Happy Thanksgiving" is to get busy giving thanks....  Blessings, Sam

Comment by Glenn Kaiser on November 26, 2014 at 1:38pm

Probably been done, or is obvious to some of y'all, but I've an idea I must try. Bridge below and not in direct contact with can. Large enough hole in can string doesn't buzz against the metal.

Picture canjo laying flat in front of you, left-to-right- tuner left, right is the bottom where the can would be:

Create slight slot in stick for can but leave more than normal room (say total 2 inches) on stick below end of can for both bridge and string hole.

Next to can place bridge. Below that (to the right) drill string hole. Screw can into slot tightly. Drill the string pass-through hole in can bottom low/higher/middle of the can bottom, wherever you like.

Depending on what you want to try, the bridge height will determine where that pass-through hole in the can needs to be. Build bridge accordingly.

String it and know that you lose -some- vibration if bridge isn't inside the can... but if the can is tight enough in the slot, bridge perhaps made of hardwood and of course tightly glued in place, the vibrations move via bridge/neck/can anyway though they don't move via the metal can as they aren't quite as much in direct contact with it as when a bridge is placed inside the can (as I normally build mine).

Just thinkin'... Happy Thanksgiving folks! -Glenn

Comment by TN Twang on November 26, 2014 at 10:46am

About the center of the can and the high action:

I'm using crooked sticks that are cut so the center of the can lines up about 1/4 " higher than the fret tops. Action is good and sound is good--finding or making proper crooked sticks is a pain in the backside. Each stick has to be custom cut for the particular can unless I can rig some sort of adjustable cradle to permit fine tuning the string action. Working on that as we speak...

About the neck through the can:

It seems that most of the sound comes off the side of the can instead of out the open end. (Handbells also work this way.) I'm thinking "outside the can" and maybe I should use a wide board like Wichita Sam shows below to keep my fat gut from damping the side of the can. (Of course, if I had a wide board, then the neck could go through the can. Hmmm!)

Comment by Wichita Sam on November 25, 2014 at 7:58pm

errr, "an unmuffled sound"... typo, sorry

Comment by Wichita Sam on November 25, 2014 at 7:55pm

TN,

I think the only thing you give up as you move away from the center of the can bottom is a little volume.  I'm using a .025 guage brass wound string and it seems to like G above middle C (same G as you'd get on the third string of a6 string guitar).... It can be tuned as high as the C above that....You can string it with thinner (wound or solid) for a higher open note but with 2 octaves on the fret board, why bother?

Bear, you an do it with the neck in or neck out, string in the center or toward the edge.... personal preference. My reasoning is the neck outside the can helps hold the can off my body for an muffled sound.  I can see how it would work the other way.

Comment by David Bowes on November 25, 2014 at 3:58pm

I might be missing the point, but if the hole is in the center then dose that not result in a high action.

David

 

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