Chinese/English CBG Cultural Interest Group

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Chinese/English CBG Cultural Interest Group

A CBN group designed to promote cultural exchanges between China and the West, especially as they relate to cigar box guitars and both guitars and music in general.

Members: 12
Latest Activity: Mar 25, 2017

Welcome to our Chinese/English Cigar Box Guitar Cultural Interest Group

 

Needless to say, most Chinese people have never heard or seen a cigar box, much less a cigar box guitar. However, the guitar and guitar music is very popular in China, especially with the younger generation. So, introducing them to cigar box guitars and related music is a natural extension of those interests. A major barrier is language, so one important part of this group will be to assist in translation. And this new version of the Ning software now supports Chinese characters as well as Pinyin, so providing word lists, translator tools and the like will now be possible. I'll start things by providing some useful word lists, and we'll see how it evolves from that.

 

Lesson one:  How to say "Cigar Box Guitar" in Chinese

                             Chinese Characters             Pinyin (phonetic alphabet) 

cigar box guitar      =  雪茄盒吉他                     =  xuě ​jiā​ hé​ jí​ tā

where:

    cigar = 雪茄 = xuě ​jiā​

    box = 盒 = hé​

    guitar = 吉他 = jí​ tā

 

 

-Rand.

Discussion Forum

Non-Pentatonic Oriental Scales

Started by Rand Moore. Last reply by Rand Moore Jan 30, 2011. 2 Replies

Chinese music is often characterized by their Pentatonic scales, but they also have some non-pentatonic scales. Here's a heptatonic scale called the "Oriental Scale".…Continue

Tags: The Oriental Scale

Chinese Pentatonic Scales... Let's build a CBG with Chinese scale(s)

Started by Rand Moore. Last reply by The Phrygian Kid Jan 25, 2011. 21 Replies

Hi Everyone.Recently I have become interested in pentatonic scales. This interest came about after modifying one of my 2-stringer CBGs so it would become a chromatically fretted instruments. The…Continue

Tags: scales, pentatonic, Chinese

Guitar Terminology Word List

Started by Rand Moore. Last reply by Rand Moore Jan 8, 2011. 1 Reply

 December 24, 2010 I hope some of you find this list useful. This is an ever evolving list in terms of both formatting and content. Right now, it's just a dump from a text file I had compiled last…Continue

Tags: 吉他术语英汉词汇, Chinese, 雪茄盒吉他

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Comment by Deedee on May 19, 2014 at 1:50am

If you are looking for a good dictionary try this one. http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php

Even the right pronunciation and the correct order of the strokes is shown.

再见

Comment by Deedee on May 19, 2014 at 1:48am

Hi all,

Very interesting, a Chinese interest group. I have been studying Chinese language for some time just for fun. The machine translation below is not perfect like any machine translation, but I can understand some of it.

Comment by Rand Moore on May 19, 2011 at 11:33am
When I tried pinging Handmade Music Clubhouse, at first I couldn't get a response but now I can. Here's my ping results:

Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001.

C:\DOCUME~1\RANDY>ping www.handmademusicclubhouse.com
Ping request could not find host www.handmademusicclubhouse.com. Please check th
e name and try again.

C:\DOCUME~1\RANDY>ping handmademusic.ning.com
Ping request could not find host handmademusic.ning.com. Please check the name a
nd try again.

C:\DOCUME~1\RANDY>ping www.handmademusic.ning.com

Pinging www.handmademusic.ning.com [8.6.19.68] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=225ms TTL=239
Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=239
Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=222ms TTL=239
Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=226ms TTL=239

Ping statistics for 8.6.19.68:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 222ms, Maximum = 226ms, Average = 224ms

C:\DOCUME~1\RANDY>

Here, it seems you have to get the URL name just right (www.handmademusic.ning.com) even though from my browser's bookmarks, the failed ones used to work. Then I tried it again from my browser, using the URL that worked, and I was able to access the site. Then I tested my book marks again and they work as well. So all I can guess is some kind of routing problems. Maybe somewhere the routing table got cleared out and the alias URLs weren't available until I succeeded in accessing the site. Who knows. Sure bothers me.

-Rand.
Comment by Rand Moore on May 19, 2011 at 11:15am

Well, now I can access that ning (Friends of the Mountain Dulcimer, http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com), so I guess I'm mistaken. Let me try a couple other Nings (Cigar Box Guitars Australia & Hand Made Music Clubhouse). Yeah, I still can't access those two Nings. Maybe the problem I've had today is a Ning server problem, and I'm just jumping to conclusions about the Chines government re-blocking the Ning server. Let me ping the FOTMD ning to see what IP address they are using.

 

Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001.

C:\DOCUME~1\RANDY>ping mountaindulcimer.ning.com

Pinging mountaindulcimer.ning.com [8.6.19.68] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=239
Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=239
Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=225ms TTL=239
Reply from 8.6.19.68: bytes=32 time=223ms TTL=239

Ping statistics for 8.6.19.68:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 223ms, Maximum = 225ms, Average = 223ms

C:\DOCUME~1\RANDY>

 

Yes, IP address 8.6.19.68 was the offending IP address, and it's still accessible from China, so it must be some other problem. Hope the Ning support folks are on it.

-Rand.

 

Comment by Rand Moore on May 19, 2011 at 5:26am

I haven't been active in this group since China decided to block a Ning server which caused access to many web sites, including CBN to be blocked in China. How can we have cultural exchanges if China (the Government) blocks the means? Well, after firing off a bunch of messages through various channels, 3 weeks after I was locked out, I found the Ning folks had changed CBN to another IP address, getting around the blockage. So, I have been happily using CBN again. But, then, just last week, I found all the other Ning sites I visited before were un-blocked. But today, they appear blocked again. Come on China... Give me a break.  Free Youtube, while you at it, China.

--Rand (from Shenzhen, China)

Comment by Bluesheart on February 25, 2011 at 3:16pm
Good, I have always loved Asian music and also have good friends from China. They me be able to help shed some light on issues as well. Thanks for starting this.
Comment by Rand Moore on February 19, 2011 at 8:46am

Elsewhere on the Internet, I found out that the two formal names for the pentatonic scale formed by the five black keys (accidental notes) on the piano are:

1.) F# Major Pentatonic Scale

2.) Gb Major Pentatonic Scale

And of course F# and Gb are enharmonic names for the same note, and hence the same scale.

 

Maybe my D Major Pentatonic could have worked better if I had tuned it to F# or Gb. Well, too late now. Maybe next time.

-Rand.

Comment by Rand Moore on February 19, 2011 at 2:01am

Hi Edgel R. Gillespie II.

Welcome to the group. I enjoy noodling around with pentatonic scaled 2- and 3-stringers. My favorite pentatonic scale so far are the five accidental notes on the Western 12TET scale (the black keys on a piano). I had a Major Pentatonic Scale fretboard, but it sounds too much like the diatonic scale, being the same except skipping a couple notes per octave. I have since added a few frets to that instrument to make if diatonic, which is my favorite scale for playing traditional and folk melodies on. I wish I had a collection of songs for the 5-black key pentatonic scale I mentioned above. I bet I could find some if I spent some more time researching on the Internet.

-Rand.

Comment by Edgel R Gillespie II on February 18, 2011 at 10:19pm

I have always been drawn to the eastern cultural music since I was a young kid. I had nieghbors who were from the orient and they all played one string or another. Nothing like the simplicity of their music to calm the soul.

very good idea here....it is worth the study. Maximo

Comment by Rand Moore on February 17, 2011 at 6:26am

Okay, I have a bit more info as to why access to the Ning server was blocked in China. Apparently, the server had hosted some pornographic web sites, so the Chinese  authorities blocked its IP address (8.6.19.68) and in the process, blocked access to a lot of legitimate webs sites like "Cigar Box Nation" (CBN) and "Handmade Music Clubhouse" (HMC), and then they went on vacation. The Ning tech support folks have apparently been moving web sites from the blocked server to another one, seemingly on a per request basis. While my access to CBN was blocked, when I pinged the CBN URL, I'd get 4 time out messages and the reported IP address was 8.6.19.68. Now I have access to CBN and the IP address I'm getting from pinging the CBN URL is 8.6.19.69. However, I still can't access HMC, and when I ping them, I still get the blocked IP address (8.6.19.68). Someone should contact the administrator at HMC and inform them of this situation. If they want people to be able to access their Ning-based web site, then they'll have to contact the Ning tech support folks and hve them change the server the site is hosted on (or change the IP address of the blocked server). You can forward them my message, too.

-Rand.

 

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