Spokeshave: flat or round? - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T15:23:36Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/spokeshave-flat-or-round?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI've been using a spoke shave…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-16:2592684:Comment:31857322018-08-16T18:02:10.054ZMark Prenticehttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/MarkPrentice
<p>I've been using a spoke shave since watching Chickenbone Johns neck carving video. I use a modern Stanley 151 and the key is to properly sharpen the blade. If you are not sure how to properly sharpen a blade you should watch some youtube videos on sharpening plane blades. <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/iHxSqGqN0RM?wmode=opaque" allowfullscreen="" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0"></iframe>
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<p>I've been using a spoke shave since watching Chickenbone Johns neck carving video. I use a modern Stanley 151 and the key is to properly sharpen the blade. If you are not sure how to properly sharpen a blade you should watch some youtube videos on sharpening plane blades. <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/iHxSqGqN0RM?wmode=opaque" allowfullscreen="" width="560" height="315" frameborder="0"></iframe>
</p> Or even more fundamentally: “…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-16:2592684:Comment:31855932018-08-16T13:15:12.746ZCigar Box Gushttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/UncleGus
<p>Or even more fundamentally: “How do I make a CBG?”</p>
<p>(I’ve been doing this for six years. I think I may actually be getting dumber. Or I’m psyching myself out comparing my work to others’.)</p>
<p>Or even more fundamentally: “How do I make a CBG?”</p>
<p>(I’ve been doing this for six years. I think I may actually be getting dumber. Or I’m psyching myself out comparing my work to others’.)</p> Hi, maybe your question could…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-16:2592684:Comment:31854172018-08-16T06:25:58.271ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, maybe your question could have been, " should I get a spokeshave or a bench first?" . Any old table or chest of drawers or kitchen worktop/unit or desk can be made into a cheep bench.</p>
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<p>Hi, maybe your question could have been, " should I get a spokeshave or a bench first?" . Any old table or chest of drawers or kitchen worktop/unit or desk can be made into a cheep bench.</p>
<p>Taff</p> Thanks for the input, folks.…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-16:2592684:Comment:31854882018-08-16T02:02:05.742ZCigar Box Gushttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/UncleGus
<p><span>Thanks</span> <span>for the input, folks. I think I’m on a very different level, as an instrument-maker, than just about everyone. And I don’t mean a</span> <em>higher</em> <span>level, either.</span></p>
<p>After all of this, I think what’s going to probably happen is that I end up huffing away with a rasp to rough out necks while the spokeshave quietly rusts at the bottom of a toolbox, having never even been sharpened. I know me.</p>
<p>I had forgotten that anything related to…</p>
<p><span>Thanks</span> <span>for the input, folks. I think I’m on a very different level, as an instrument-maker, than just about everyone. And I don’t mean a</span> <em>higher</em> <span>level, either.</span></p>
<p>After all of this, I think what’s going to probably happen is that I end up huffing away with a rasp to rough out necks while the spokeshave quietly rusts at the bottom of a toolbox, having never even been sharpened. I know me.</p>
<p>I had forgotten that anything related to woodworking is exactly like collecting vinyl records: you can’t just get a damn record. You gotta get outer sleeves and brushes and cleaning systems, and IKEA shelves, and by the way, what kinda stylus you using? Howzabout your speakers? Turntable looks a bit basic, too, while we’re at it...wait, you don’t have a 30-band EQ?!...</p>
<p>I’ll give the spokeshave a shot once I get the rest of the New Yankee Workshop set up, I guess. I’ve got blueprints for a DIY workbench, but I might be better off with a trip to Memards.</p>
<p>(Clarification, just in case: this is all written in the spirit of self-deprecating humor; I know that doesn’t always translate into text, and what with the rest of the internet being a brimming rage toilet, I’d hate for anyone to think I’m over here gnashing my teeth and making animal noises while standing on a milk crate.. I’m having a blast. Best forum I’ve ever been a part of. By the way, anybody wanna buy some records...?)</p> I like my spokeshave ok, but…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-16:2592684:Comment:31853612018-08-16T00:48:25.162ZKigarhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Kigar
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<li>I like my spokeshave ok, but what Taffy is showing I always knew as a drawknife and I find it a much superior tool for necks. They work great unsharpened too, and can round a neck in a couple minutes. Sometimes the grain will fight it but most oak pieces can be made smooth enough to not really need sanding. I was given a huge one and bought another smaller one at an antique store. Both will outlive me without question.</li>
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<li>I like my spokeshave ok, but what Taffy is showing I always knew as a drawknife and I find it a much superior tool for necks. They work great unsharpened too, and can round a neck in a couple minutes. Sometimes the grain will fight it but most oak pieces can be made smooth enough to not really need sanding. I was given a huge one and bought another smaller one at an antique store. Both will outlive me without question.</li>
</ul> Wow, you build nice ones.
May…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-15:2592684:Comment:31852652018-08-15T23:23:23.916ZCigar Box Gushttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/UncleGus
<p>Wow, you build <em>nice</em> ones.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Maybe I can clamp ‘em to the lawn tractor. (In addition to a vise, I don’t even have the bench said vise would normally be attached to. I’m really winging it here. <em>Furiously</em> winging it.)</p>
<p>Wow, you build <em>nice</em> ones.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Maybe I can clamp ‘em to the lawn tractor. (In addition to a vise, I don’t even have the bench said vise would normally be attached to. I’m really winging it here. <em>Furiously</em> winging it.)</p> Hi Clint, My suggestion may o…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-15:2592684:Comment:31850822018-08-15T22:26:49.648ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi Clint, My suggestion may only apply if you <strong>also</strong> plan, at some time, to carve shapes like the heal of a guitar, or to blend the roundness of a neck into the square features of peghead. Go for a curved style. </p>
<p>My two shave's were over 50 years old, when I dropped one [about 15 years ago] and it shattered the handle of the flat sole spokeshave and ever since I have been using the curved sole one for all my shaping. In fact I just had to go and check to see…</p>
<p>Hi Clint, My suggestion may only apply if you <strong>also</strong> plan, at some time, to carve shapes like the heal of a guitar, or to blend the roundness of a neck into the square features of peghead. Go for a curved style. </p>
<p>My two shave's were over 50 years old, when I dropped one [about 15 years ago] and it shattered the handle of the flat sole spokeshave and ever since I have been using the curved sole one for all my shaping. In fact I just had to go and check to see which one I had been using.</p>
<p>But that is not all I use, I use my drawknife even more. See photo. However one does have to be more aware of grain direction so as to maintain a good surface. If the grain gets difficult I bring in the Spokeshave, and of course my Japanese hand cut rasp. </p>
<p>No vise?......in the photo I show one of my systems for shaping necks. Instead of the vise shown you could clamp the neck to your worksurface.</p>
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<p>Cheers Taff</p> Thanks for weighing in, all.…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-15:2592684:Comment:31850492018-08-15T17:06:54.295ZCigar Box Gushttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/UncleGus
<p>Thanks for weighing in, all.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I got an <em>okay</em><em>-</em>quality flat spokeshave.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And then I realized this: I don’t have a bench with a vise. So I can’t even <em>use</em> the thing until I figure something out.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I am beginning to suspect that I am not a genius.</p>
<p>Thanks for weighing in, all.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I got an <em>okay</em><em>-</em>quality flat spokeshave.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And then I realized this: I don’t have a bench with a vise. So I can’t even <em>use</em> the thing until I figure something out.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I am beginning to suspect that I am not a genius.</p> CBJ is wise... I love my spok…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-15:2592684:Comment:31849642018-08-15T05:05:44.127ZJohn Sawyerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JohnSawyer
<p>CBJ is wise... I love my spokeshave. Keeping the blade razor sharp is worthwhile effort. I use mine on Maple...</p>
<p>CBJ is wise... I love my spokeshave. Keeping the blade razor sharp is worthwhile effort. I use mine on Maple...</p> Yes chickenbone, good advice.…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-08-14:2592684:Comment:31841162018-08-14T06:20:28.867ZBrianQ.https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BrianQ
<p>Yes chickenbone, good advice. Cheap tools are just as such- cheap & no good for any kind of longevity & lack finesse </p>
<p>Yes chickenbone, good advice. Cheap tools are just as such- cheap & no good for any kind of longevity & lack finesse </p>