Random thoughts and first pix of first build (2X4 Lap Steel)... - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T15:41:02Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/random-thoughts-and-first-pix-of-first-build-2x4-lap-steel?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHey James. I was thinking abo…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-08:2592684:Comment:33783772019-09-08T11:52:41.971ZPoorness Studioshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/PoornessStudios
<p>Hey James. I was thinking about this as I was laying in bed this morning. I wouldn't scrap the project at all. You could either 1) move the bridge and adjust the height so it matches the nut or 2) you could just go with your original plan. Use the bridge as a tailpiece and the threaded rod for a bridge. There's no reason that wouldn't work.</p>
<p>If it was me, I'd remove the saddles/springs/screws from the bridge assembly so it was essentially a angled bracket with 6 holes (save the saddles…</p>
<p>Hey James. I was thinking about this as I was laying in bed this morning. I wouldn't scrap the project at all. You could either 1) move the bridge and adjust the height so it matches the nut or 2) you could just go with your original plan. Use the bridge as a tailpiece and the threaded rod for a bridge. There's no reason that wouldn't work.</p>
<p>If it was me, I'd remove the saddles/springs/screws from the bridge assembly so it was essentially a angled bracket with 6 holes (save the saddles for a late project, there are ways to use them without the base plate). Thread the strings through the bridge, up over the threaded rod, and all the way down to the tuners. Basically, follow your original plan. That would actually work pretty well and it think it will look cool when you're done.</p>
<p>I like the way you took advantage of the extra space on the 2x6 and used the pickup ring. That looks cool. And the idea to use the conduit box for a control plate was genius. I say follow your plan brother!</p> in theory yes. but in practic…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-08:2592684:Comment:33782772019-09-08T11:27:13.816ZTimothy Hunterhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TimothyHunter
<p>in theory yes. but in practice strings have mass and thickness and tension differences so you have to slightly adjust the vibrating length to compensate. thats why on rats picture of a strat bridge , the saddels are slightly different.</p>
<p>in theory yes. but in practice strings have mass and thickness and tension differences so you have to slightly adjust the vibrating length to compensate. thats why on rats picture of a strat bridge , the saddels are slightly different.</p> we do too in Australia but in…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-08:2592684:Comment:33783762019-09-08T11:22:01.683ZTimothy Hunterhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TimothyHunter
<p>we do too in Australia but in watching you tube all over the world i have picked up a few things..lol</p>
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<p>we do too in Australia but in watching you tube all over the world i have picked up a few things..lol</p>
<p></p> This is all so new....I think…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-08:2592684:Comment:33785592019-09-08T05:44:57.717ZJames Poboghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JamesPobog
<p>This is all so new....I think VSL is "Vibrating String Length".</p>
<p>This is all so new....I think VSL is "Vibrating String Length".</p> I don't think you need to go…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-08:2592684:Comment:33782602019-09-08T01:56:45.212ZPoorness Studioshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/PoornessStudios
<p>I don't think you need to go back to the drawing board at all. Just make it work. The important thing is to have 23" between the nut and the bridge. If you need to move one or the other to achieve this, it shouldn't be too hard.</p>
<p>I don't think you need to go back to the drawing board at all. Just make it work. The important thing is to have 23" between the nut and the bridge. If you need to move one or the other to achieve this, it shouldn't be too hard.</p> Well crap. Back to square one…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-07:2592684:Comment:33782452019-09-07T19:09:23.332ZJames Poboghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JamesPobog
<p>Well crap. Back to square one. Split wood on a long 1" hole. <br/><br/>Not too upset. It's only a couple hours lost.<br/><br/>Really going back to square one. Back to 2X4, and about 90% of the original plan. Sequence is now being sorted out. Sequence can be important.</p>
<p>Well crap. Back to square one. Split wood on a long 1" hole. <br/><br/>Not too upset. It's only a couple hours lost.<br/><br/>Really going back to square one. Back to 2X4, and about 90% of the original plan. Sequence is now being sorted out. Sequence can be important.</p> I've worked on guitars for ye…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-07:2592684:Comment:33784272019-09-07T19:04:25.489ZCause the Blue rathttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/CausetheBluerat
<p>I've worked on guitars for years. I have no idea what VSL is. </p>
<p>Picture the inside of a piano or a harp. Each string has a different length depending on the note. There's no need tune to the strings harmonics. On a guitar or any other fingered instrument you are changing the string length to make notes. These means the tension of the sting has to be tuned so it's harmonics mach up to the frets. The bridge is used to mach the strings harmonics to the fret placement. That way when you…</p>
<p>I've worked on guitars for years. I have no idea what VSL is. </p>
<p>Picture the inside of a piano or a harp. Each string has a different length depending on the note. There's no need tune to the strings harmonics. On a guitar or any other fingered instrument you are changing the string length to make notes. These means the tension of the sting has to be tuned so it's harmonics mach up to the frets. The bridge is used to mach the strings harmonics to the fret placement. That way when you play an open A and a fretted A they well be in tune with each other. No matter what string your pressing to play that second A. </p>
<p>So in truth A 25.5 inch scale ends up being slightly longer or shorter than 25 inches. </p> I don’t understand, are you u…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-07:2592684:Comment:33785222019-09-07T17:30:33.443ZBrianQ.https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BrianQ
<p>I don’t understand, are you using both? Or are you asking how far back the bridge should be placed? 23” from the nut, right? Maybe you should have built #1 first & then added your changes to #2 after, it’s very easy to get ahead of yourself on a build, especially the first? Good luck with this</p>
<p>I don’t understand, are you using both? Or are you asking how far back the bridge should be placed? 23” from the nut, right? Maybe you should have built #1 first & then added your changes to #2 after, it’s very easy to get ahead of yourself on a build, especially the first? Good luck with this</p> Here's what I don't understan…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-07:2592684:Comment:33783342019-09-07T15:56:27.270ZJames Poboghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JamesPobog
<p>Here's what I don't understand... with the hardtail bridge, does not the VSL change on different strings? I thought VSL was pretty much inviolate....</p>
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<p>Here's what I don't understand... with the hardtail bridge, does not the VSL change on different strings? I thought VSL was pretty much inviolate....</p>
<p></p> Thanks Timothy. Around here w…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-09-07:2592684:Comment:33785152019-09-07T14:33:14.719ZCause the Blue rathttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/CausetheBluerat
<p>Thanks Timothy. Around here we call em threaded rods. Looks like both names work. </p>
<p>Thanks Timothy. Around here we call em threaded rods. Looks like both names work. </p>