Piezo pup handling noise - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T12:28:55Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/piezo-pup-handling-noise?feed=yes&xn_auth=noPiezos work on a totally diff…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-10:2592684:Comment:34436752020-02-10T23:07:04.847ZFrançoishttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Francois295
<p>Piezos work on a totally different principle than magnetic pickups.</p>
<p>The metal disk is coated with a special ceramic material. When a mechanical stress is applied to the disk, the two different materials generate a small electrical current. Check out the wikipedia article on piezoelectricity, It's quite interesting. For the disks, there is no magnetic interaction possible. So if you plan on playing in a room with a tesla coil (like at a Maker Fair), piezo is the only way to…</p>
<p>Piezos work on a totally different principle than magnetic pickups.</p>
<p>The metal disk is coated with a special ceramic material. When a mechanical stress is applied to the disk, the two different materials generate a small electrical current. Check out the wikipedia article on piezoelectricity, It's quite interesting. For the disks, there is no magnetic interaction possible. So if you plan on playing in a room with a tesla coil (like at a Maker Fair), piezo is the only way to go.</p>
<p></p> nope tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-09:2592684:Comment:34429772020-02-09T03:34:01.260Zthe anonymous pickhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/theanonymouspick
<p>nope </p>
<p>nope </p> Does a piezo need a string gr…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-09:2592684:Comment:34431152020-02-09T02:18:38.348ZKevin Keatinghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KevinKeating
<p>Does a piezo need a string ground like a magnetic pup? It sounds good and not making noise so I'm guess maybe not?</p>
<p>Does a piezo need a string ground like a magnetic pup? It sounds good and not making noise so I'm guess maybe not?</p> Man, after trying about 5 dif…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-02:2592684:Comment:34411522020-02-02T23:07:29.815ZKevin Keatinghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KevinKeating
<p>Man, after trying about 5 different spots and as many piezos, I think I finally found a spot that is a decent balance of tone and handling noise. It's on the backside of the neck closer to the heel than the bridge. The tone is good and the noise is manageable. When I put the neck through, I beefed up the backside to compensate for what I had to take away from the top. I used PINE for this, which is really soft wood but it works. I wonder if the softer nature of the pine helps to insulate…</p>
<p>Man, after trying about 5 different spots and as many piezos, I think I finally found a spot that is a decent balance of tone and handling noise. It's on the backside of the neck closer to the heel than the bridge. The tone is good and the noise is manageable. When I put the neck through, I beefed up the backside to compensate for what I had to take away from the top. I used PINE for this, which is really soft wood but it works. I wonder if the softer nature of the pine helps to insulate the piezo? I dunno. I'm happy with it, FINALLY!</p> Hi Kevin, I imagine there is…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-01-28:2592684:Comment:34388122020-01-28T01:43:03.589ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi Kevin, I imagine there is a difference. The piezoelectric I use on my CBG's cost a few dollars as single units, I can get packets of ten, and they are as you described unless I do sme creative thinking when installing them.</p>
<p>However the units I put in the full guitars that I build cost hundreds of dollars, and perform very well and do not pickup body taps and feedback is less prone.</p>
<p>There are different crystals, and along with different sizes have different ratings in output…</p>
<p>Hi Kevin, I imagine there is a difference. The piezoelectric I use on my CBG's cost a few dollars as single units, I can get packets of ten, and they are as you described unless I do sme creative thinking when installing them.</p>
<p>However the units I put in the full guitars that I build cost hundreds of dollars, and perform very well and do not pickup body taps and feedback is less prone.</p>
<p>There are different crystals, and along with different sizes have different ratings in output and other electrickery that I don't pretended to understand. I understand that a high priced model CBG out there uses these good quality piezo.</p>
<p>Taff</p>
<p></p> Piezos come in several sizes.…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-01-24:2592684:Comment:34373032020-01-24T10:51:10.831ZKevin Keatinghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KevinKeating
<p>Piezos come in several sizes. Is there a difference in sound or volume between a 20mm and 50mm piezo? Doe size matter?</p>
<p>Piezos come in several sizes. Is there a difference in sound or volume between a 20mm and 50mm piezo? Doe size matter?</p> Pretty much the same . , but…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-01-22:2592684:Comment:34365132020-01-22T05:37:12.811Zthe anonymous pickhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/theanonymouspick
<p>Pretty much the same . , but rod piezos are a a step up in sound quality from disks for cbgs. ... in my opinion . They work a bit differently and are installed different , you may want to research those .</p>
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<p>Pretty much the same . , but rod piezos are a a step up in sound quality from disks for cbgs. ... in my opinion . They work a bit differently and are installed different , you may want to research those .</p>
<p></p> Are there better quality piez…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-01-22:2592684:Comment:34366122020-01-22T04:59:17.425ZKevin Keatinghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/KevinKeating
<p>Are there better quality piezos with less noise? Or are they all pretty much the same?</p>
<p>Are there better quality piezos with less noise? Or are they all pretty much the same?</p> so it doesnt sound like you…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-01-19:2592684:Comment:34353972020-01-19T23:52:58.000ZCause the Blue rathttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/CausetheBluerat
<p><em> so it doesnt sound like you are pulling a cat through a keyhole . </em></p>
<p>Now THAT made my day! :) Thanks Anonymous. </p>
<p>Watched hundreds of videos. Played on and heard hundreds of CBGs. I can honestly say there's only been a small hand full that have had a bad sound plugged in. But these few had an odd sound when played acoustically as well. Unlike a pup a piezo will only give you what you put it in. </p>
<p>If the body of the Kalimba is really small make a stop box for the…</p>
<p><em> so it doesnt sound like you are pulling a cat through a keyhole . </em></p>
<p>Now THAT made my day! :) Thanks Anonymous. </p>
<p>Watched hundreds of videos. Played on and heard hundreds of CBGs. I can honestly say there's only been a small hand full that have had a bad sound plugged in. But these few had an odd sound when played acoustically as well. Unlike a pup a piezo will only give you what you put it in. </p>
<p>If the body of the Kalimba is really small make a stop box for the preamp instead. That way you could share it with other builds as well. </p> In this case , the preamp let…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-01-19:2592684:Comment:34352982020-01-19T22:54:52.368Zthe anonymous pickhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/theanonymouspick
<p>In this case , the preamp lets you tone down the eq type settings manually , so it doesnt sound like you are pulling a cat through a keyhole . </p>
<p>In this case , the preamp lets you tone down the eq type settings manually , so it doesnt sound like you are pulling a cat through a keyhole . </p>