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  • Crow June 10, 2010 at 2:40pm
    i think some people should get over themselves and their over-active self-defense mechanisms.

    anyone who plays CBG or ukes probably knows IZ and all about his health conditions. it was very clear that this thread was just a post to expose more people to good old Isreal, which is a good thing. (hearing his version of "over the rainbow" year ago changed my life!!)

    there was nothing deragatory said about anyone's size, and no one really cares how much anyone else weighs. it seems that some of us can be so overly sensitive about our own issues that we insert them and make an issue of them without any real need or cause, which only really just draws more attention to the issue we are supposedly trying to hide. i may not like my feet, but i don't stroll in to a room, just waiting for shoes to be mentioned so that i can launch in to an overblown tirade about foot-insensitive remarks.

    we call this "trolling," and it's usually the action of one who is so overly defensive about a topic that they switch to offense for a few plays.

    so i'll (hopefully) set a few things straight.


    IZ was great.

    we all know it

    we don't care that he was fat (that wasn't the point of the post)

    nor that anyone else is fat (that wasn't the point either)

    he's dead now, and we're all sad for it.

    no, i'll say it again, it's clear that this thread was not about anyone being fat.


    i hope this clears it up.

    have a great day guys!
  • Wild Rover June 9, 2010 at 4:07pm
    The video at this link is not on youtube anymore, but you can still find the video posted by others on youtube. It is well worth the effort to find it.
  • Wichita Sam March 21, 2010 at 10:12pm
    OK

    Richard D. DeRoin said:
    Well Sam here we go again. First I don't assume anything. Your second paragrapgh says " If I believe the same" Well right now I am not sure that we believe the same about anything, And In don't really understand any part of that paragraph. But if you read my first post it was stated in the form of a question. And that was my only intent. Maybe I didn't use the words that made that clear. I only spoke of my weight because who ever would read my reply might understand that some people see things with a different light and that I can relate to IZ and his problem. Seems to me that we are both seeing this thing very differently and we have our own thoughts about it. And our word seem to carry different meanings to each of us. Having said that I hope we can agree on this. We are both grown men with many different opinions and maybe we can agree to just disagree on this one.
    Regards, Rick DeRoin
  • Peter Taylor March 21, 2010 at 9:20pm
    THIS GUY IS A LEGEND AND HIS MUSIC AND TALENT WILL INSPIRE THE WORLD FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
    .R.I.P..
  • Richard D. DeRoin March 21, 2010 at 9:09pm
    Well Sam here we go again. First I don't assume anything. Your second paragrapgh says " If I believe the same" Well right now I am not sure that we believe the same about anything, And In don't really understand any part of that paragraph. But if you read my first post it was stated in the form of a question. And that was my only intent. Maybe I didn't use the words that made that clear. I only spoke of my weight because who ever would read my reply might understand that some people see things with a different light and that I can relate to IZ and his problem. Seems to me that we are both seeing this thing very differently and we have our own thoughts about it. And our word seem to carry different meanings to each of us. Having said that I hope we can agree on this. We are both grown men with many different opinions and maybe we can agree to just disagree on this one.
    Regards, Rick DeRoin
  • Wichita Sam March 21, 2010 at 7:30pm
    Richard,

    One either assumes people are good or they are not. In the literally thousands of posts I have read on the nation, I haven't seen a handful of negative ones. And, when a link to a vid is posted, it is uniformly honoring of the artist.

    If you believed the same you wouldn't have asked the intent of the poster. Your post carried a "chip on the shoulder" "what the heck do you mean by the that?" "right before a bar fight" tone. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but in a digital environment, I thought that you might like a clarification.

    That's my black and white. (probably not useful in a world full of shades of grey)....

    the best,

    Wichita Sam
    Richard D. DeRoin said:
    Howdy Sam, Let me tell you that I don't bet. I normally take people at their word, yes or no, black or white, green or blue, right or wrong, up or down. There are no grey areas in my mind. I am normally open minded but in the end, thats how my mind works. If you tell me something, I take you at your word. And you can do the same with me. That's me. I tell you this because we dont know each other and it would take years for you to learn this about me. This information is just so you know what kind of animal your dealing with.

    Now for this post. And let me say I respect all those who post here on these pages. And I have directed no dispersion toward anyone. Almost all the posts I have read here at the nation either ask a question or make a statement for others to answer or share a point of view. In this post that wasn't the case just a link to a video. Ok? I have viewed this video many, many times as a matter of fact I play it at least once a week just to keep me going. And I know there are so many aspects of it that could be a topic for discussion here at the nation. The video it self, the audio, the song arrangement, the vocals, the instruments and even the audience participation. But that wasn't the case. The way this post started was very vague and non descriptive nor was it a tribute. And the replies at that point to the post did not appear to be of a musical nature. Now, there was no disrespect stated because IZ was what he was. Me being a fat man thats my case also. But what most small people dont understand is that we are much harder on ourselves then any spoken or written word can discribe so that crap don't bother me. That being said I want to make this clear. "Reading this post and how it was started I dont see what iggy was posting about" What type of discussion was he trying to solicit? That was the point of my reply and also to show my respect for the man and his music.
    Respectfully , Rick DeRoin
  • Richard D. DeRoin March 21, 2010 at 3:14pm
    Howdy Sam, Let me tell you that I don't bet. I normally take people at their word, yes or no, black or white, green or blue, right or wrong, up or down. There are no grey areas in my mind. I am normally open minded but in the end, thats how my mind works. If you tell me something, I take you at your word. And you can do the same with me. That's me. I tell you this because we dont know each other and it would take years for you to learn this about me. This information is just so you know what kind of animal your dealing with.

    Now for this post. And let me say I respect all those who post here on these pages. And I have directed no dispersion toward anyone. Almost all the posts I have read here at the nation either ask a question or make a statement for others to answer or share a point of view. In this post that wasn't the case just a link to a video. Ok? I have viewed this video many, many times as a matter of fact I play it at least once a week just to keep me going. And I know there are so many aspects of it that could be a topic for discussion here at the nation. The video it self, the audio, the song arrangement, the vocals, the instruments and even the audience participation. But that wasn't the case. The way this post started was very vague and non descriptive nor was it a tribute. And the replies at that point to the post did not appear to be of a musical nature. Now, there was no disrespect stated because IZ was what he was. Me being a fat man thats my case also. But what most small people dont understand is that we are much harder on ourselves then any spoken or written word can discribe so that crap don't bother me. That being said I want to make this clear. "Reading this post and how it was started I dont see what iggy was posting about" What type of discussion was he trying to solicit? That was the point of my reply and also to show my respect for the man and his music.
    Respectfully , Rick DeRoin
  • Wichita Sam March 20, 2010 at 10:50pm
    Richard,

    I didn't originate this post, but I would bet my house that it originated with nothing but respect. Ukuleles got me into CBGs and I was high on the Izz before the CBG bug got me. If you are wondering about the replies in respect to the man's weight, I can only give my reaction.... It is sad that anything takes such a great talent out of this world before their time. This was certainly the case with IZZ. But, where many people often avoid people with "conditions", because of his talent and pure soul, people flocked to him.

    I wonder what you saw that was in anyway disrespectful......

    the best,

    Wichita Sam

    Richard D. DeRoin said:
    Hey Guys I am not really understanding the point of this post. Me being a man who weighs 500 lbs. I can only hope it's out of respect for the man and his music. But let me say this. I have myself just recently discovered this amazing talent. Although this music is not what I would normally listen to it is so pure that it touches my heart in a way that I cannot explain. He died back in the 90's from his poor health. His music will live on and its legacy is ours to keep. Thanks IZ !
  • Sam Williams March 20, 2010 at 10:10pm
    So much beauty in "ALL" of God's creations!!!
  • Dan Sleep March 20, 2010 at 9:37pm
    The post is and was totally out of respect for the man and his music.
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