Maduro all wood box, top(thick), or bottom (thin) for sound board? Effect of short vs long scale length on tone - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T12:11:14Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/maduro-all-wood-box-top-thick-or-bottom-thin-for-sound-board-1?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHow about this, guys. I find…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-03:2592684:Comment:32673912019-01-03T01:17:55.775Zgordon barneshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/gordonbarnes
<p>How about this, guys. I find another maduro box. Since the bottom of the box is thin, generating the idea of inverting the box, I wonder about using 2 box bottoms, each with thin, but seemingly solid top-bottoms. Sides and ends are very dense 1/4-5/16 wood. I plan to dowel these due to no dove tailing. Glued dowels add tremendous strength. CBG would be a little chunkey but so am I. Inside volume would be roomy for neck bracing. Sides would be 3 and 3/4 , plenty of room for side…</p>
<p>How about this, guys. I find another maduro box. Since the bottom of the box is thin, generating the idea of inverting the box, I wonder about using 2 box bottoms, each with thin, but seemingly solid top-bottoms. Sides and ends are very dense 1/4-5/16 wood. I plan to dowel these due to no dove tailing. Glued dowels add tremendous strength. CBG would be a little chunkey but so am I. Inside volume would be roomy for neck bracing. Sides would be 3 and 3/4 , plenty of room for side sound holes. I think you guys may be onto something! thanks, Gordon (mud lizzard lou)</p> Hi Christopher, yes the top o…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-03:2592684:Comment:32673672019-01-03T00:53:35.000ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi Christopher, yes the top of the instrument is the most important component, but don't discount the back of the instrument, it's very important too.</p>
<p>if Gordon was to thin the back/bottom (used to be the top) he would get even better performance. Also, soundholes in the sides would aid in the volume directed at the player, but not project equally as well to the listener out front.</p>
<p>Glad y'all thinking about this subject.</p>
<p>Taff</p>
<p>Hi Christopher, yes the top of the instrument is the most important component, but don't discount the back of the instrument, it's very important too.</p>
<p>if Gordon was to thin the back/bottom (used to be the top) he would get even better performance. Also, soundholes in the sides would aid in the volume directed at the player, but not project equally as well to the listener out front.</p>
<p>Glad y'all thinking about this subject.</p>
<p>Taff</p> There's a good possibility I…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32670592019-01-02T23:49:47.146ZChristopher G Danielshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ChristopherGDaniels
<p>There's a good possibility I could be totally wrong about diminishing returns with the soundboard. In that spirit, I found <a href="https://makaioukuleles.blogspot.com/2008/06/kashaschneider-soundboard-bracing.html">Kasha/Schneider Soundboard Bracing Theory</a> which is being put into practice at <span>Makaio Ukuleles, which are handmade in Sydney, Australia by Matt Blacka. I think multiple posters here will at least be curious about Kasha bracing.</span></p>
<p>There's a good possibility I could be totally wrong about diminishing returns with the soundboard. In that spirit, I found <a href="https://makaioukuleles.blogspot.com/2008/06/kashaschneider-soundboard-bracing.html">Kasha/Schneider Soundboard Bracing Theory</a> which is being put into practice at <span>Makaio Ukuleles, which are handmade in Sydney, Australia by Matt Blacka. I think multiple posters here will at least be curious about Kasha bracing.</span></p> I've e got chuckle, Gordon it…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32673432019-01-02T20:59:24.414ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>I've e got chuckle, Gordon it depends on your idea of heaven, not for me, I live in North Queensland. We get the same beautiful country and less people, except when the people from Sydney arrive in winter. Haha.</p>
<p>Oh, and I have more guitars than I can pack in my car, but I'm only allowed one to stay in the house.</p>
<p>Taff</p>
<p>I've e got chuckle, Gordon it depends on your idea of heaven, not for me, I live in North Queensland. We get the same beautiful country and less people, except when the people from Sydney arrive in winter. Haha.</p>
<p>Oh, and I have more guitars than I can pack in my car, but I'm only allowed one to stay in the house.</p>
<p>Taff</p> When I was still living in M…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32670272019-01-02T18:38:05.698Zgordon barneshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/gordonbarnes
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<li>When I was still living in Massachsetts, a guy from Sydney, a computer system engineer and his family built a house across the street from me. When he encountered his first winter in Mass. I think he saw the error . He had a calender of arial views of greater Sydney on the wall. All I could think of was, my God John, what are you doing Here. I think he asked himself the same question; he packed up and moved to San Diego that summer. I never forgot that calender. It was like, if…</li>
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<li>When I was still living in Massachsetts, a guy from Sydney, a computer system engineer and his family built a house across the street from me. When he encountered his first winter in Mass. I think he saw the error . He had a calender of arial views of greater Sydney on the wall. All I could think of was, my God John, what are you doing Here. I think he asked himself the same question; he packed up and moved to San Diego that summer. I never forgot that calender. It was like, if you die and lead a good life, do you go to Sydney?</li>
</ul> only one Taff... you're slipp…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32670022019-01-02T15:06:20.001ZTimothy Hunterhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TimothyHunter
<p>only one Taff... you're slipping..lol</p>
<p>only one Taff... you're slipping..lol</p> Ha ha, I've made up the spare…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32668442019-01-02T07:48:19.426ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Ha ha, I've made up the spare bed already, no nead to bring a guitar there's one in the room waiting.</p>
<p>Taff</p>
<p>Ha ha, I've made up the spare bed already, no nead to bring a guitar there's one in the room waiting.</p>
<p>Taff</p> Hey, I see on your profile, o…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32669142019-01-02T03:00:37.218Zgordon barneshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/gordonbarnes
<p>Hey, I see on your profile, or whatever they call it, you live in Australia. My son lives in Manley. If our idiot-in -chief, Trump looks like he's about to destroy the country, and I become a refugee at my son's door. I'll look you up. Gordon</p>
<p>Hey, I see on your profile, or whatever they call it, you live in Australia. My son lives in Manley. If our idiot-in -chief, Trump looks like he's about to destroy the country, and I become a refugee at my son's door. I'll look you up. Gordon</p> Looking at your pictures, it…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32669132019-01-02T02:53:57.660Zgordon barneshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/gordonbarnes
<p>Looking at your pictures, it seems perfectly logical to anchor the neck on the outside. You lose nothing only gain interior space. wonder why one doesn't see more of that. I think in most engineering, there's elegance in simple solutions. Really nice of you to share this with me and go to the trouble of the pics. I learn so much from you guys. Your work is reflected by your shop area pic. It's sure a joy to talk to you guys. Gordon,(swamp-gas Gil)</p>
<p>Looking at your pictures, it seems perfectly logical to anchor the neck on the outside. You lose nothing only gain interior space. wonder why one doesn't see more of that. I think in most engineering, there's elegance in simple solutions. Really nice of you to share this with me and go to the trouble of the pics. I learn so much from you guys. Your work is reflected by your shop area pic. It's sure a joy to talk to you guys. Gordon,(swamp-gas Gil)</p> I left two unfinished with my…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-02:2592684:Comment:32667382019-01-02T01:26:29.666ZChristopher G Danielshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/ChristopherGDaniels
<p>I left two unfinished with my luthier/guitar guy while I travelled for most of December. I've yet to see them since Nov. All are three-string. I've got a dog-bowl resonator, but I may save it for the future. One I built in a pre-amp. The other: I might put in a cheap single coil pick-up. I have divided feelings about what to do about frets. Maybe a diatonic scale? My first was a simple one, painted 21 inch scale, but no real frets, floating bridge, not naturally loud, but can be plugged in…</p>
<p>I left two unfinished with my luthier/guitar guy while I travelled for most of December. I've yet to see them since Nov. All are three-string. I've got a dog-bowl resonator, but I may save it for the future. One I built in a pre-amp. The other: I might put in a cheap single coil pick-up. I have divided feelings about what to do about frets. Maybe a diatonic scale? My first was a simple one, painted 21 inch scale, but no real frets, floating bridge, not naturally loud, but can be plugged in an amp. The piezo's pretty good! I'd like to make additional modifications, it's unstrung right now, but I should probably let it be, just play it. My slide playing needs work. </p>