Introduction and a question about neck angle - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T20:33:26Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/introduction-and-a-question-about-neck-angle?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A2277461&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noPerhaps I should mention that…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-04-06:2592684:Comment:22774612015-04-06T09:41:16.311ZRobert Stapletonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RobertStapleton
<p>Perhaps I should mention that since I made the original post I have found a four string with low action and purchased it. Plays like a dream. So for me anyway, the search for an instrument to play is over, but the conversation about how to build one is still interesting.<br/><br/>That said, Wayfinder, I really enjoy seeing the things you build. Excellent work!</p>
<p>Perhaps I should mention that since I made the original post I have found a four string with low action and purchased it. Plays like a dream. So for me anyway, the search for an instrument to play is over, but the conversation about how to build one is still interesting.<br/><br/>That said, Wayfinder, I really enjoy seeing the things you build. Excellent work!</p> Uh...
Whom are you showing??…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-04-06:2592684:Comment:22775202015-04-06T05:39:12.189ZThe Phrygian Kidhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JefLong
Uh...<br />
Whom are you showing?? And<br />
What do these demonstrate?
Uh...<br />
Whom are you showing?? And<br />
What do these demonstrate? you arr kiding right?tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-04-06:2592684:Comment:22771382015-04-06T00:14:29.491Zjimhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/jim
<p>you arr kiding right?</p>
<p>you arr kiding right?</p> NECK ANGLE MATH/GEOMETRY:
I h…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-04-05:2592684:Comment:22771972015-04-05T20:44:47.555Zgary sheldonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/0d3jt6c98794o
<p>NECK ANGLE MATH/GEOMETRY:</p>
<p>I have always just kind of guessed on neck angle. Today, I decided to actually figure out how to set it up for a particular angle of neck drop. And I wanted to make it somewhat simple, so that no trig is involved.</p>
<p>I used TurboCad, a drafting program to help me. I constructed a few right triangles with a base of 10". Drew in the hypotenuse at a couple of 1/2" increments. At 1/2" the program told me that the angle is 3.11 degrees. I printed it and…</p>
<p>NECK ANGLE MATH/GEOMETRY:</p>
<p>I have always just kind of guessed on neck angle. Today, I decided to actually figure out how to set it up for a particular angle of neck drop. And I wanted to make it somewhat simple, so that no trig is involved.</p>
<p>I used TurboCad, a drafting program to help me. I constructed a few right triangles with a base of 10". Drew in the hypotenuse at a couple of 1/2" increments. At 1/2" the program told me that the angle is 3.11 degrees. I printed it and checked it with my protractor. Correct, a little over 3 degrees. It is difficult measuring those small angles.</p>
<p>Using a right triangle rather than an isoceles triangle is cheating a bit, but I don't think it makes much difference at these very small angles.</p>
<p>I was surprised at how big an angle 3 degrees is. Turns out that my neck drop angles are much less than that. Maybe half or less. I also assume that the neck drop angle will change when the instrument is strung up. How much would depend on the construction method.</p>
<p>So with a neck through body guitar with 3 plus degree neck drop, the top of the neck at the rear of the box would be cut down 1/2". That is assuming a 10" long box. This does not include decrease in neck drop after stringing. The neck is going to bend some, wood will compress, etc.</p>
<p>To calculate for different neck drop angles and/or different length boxes you would use a ratio formula. Going back to the example of the 10" box and the 1/2 inch difference between the ends of the box, we have a ration of 20:1 between the base and altitude of the right triangle for an approximate 3.1 degree neck drop.</p>
<p>For a different neck drop angle you would use the formula to vary the ratio of base to altitude.</p>
<p></p>
<p>1 to 20 = 3.1 deg</p>
<p>2 to 20 =1 to 10 = 6.2 deg</p>
<p>1 to 40 = 1.55 deg</p>
<p>Then you have to use another ratio to compensate for a longer or shorter box. But remember, the ratio and angle will remain constant.</p>
<p>You can also just draw it out on paper and measure for box length and angle desired.</p>
<p>Hope this is helpful.</p>
<p> </p> Bandsaw?
tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-07:2592684:Comment:22519352015-03-07T17:46:52.631ZJohn Sawyerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JohnSawyer
<p>Bandsaw?</p>
<p></p>
<p>Bandsaw?</p>
<p></p> thnx. its also pretty univer…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-06:2592684:Comment:22509992015-03-06T20:49:56.245ZThe Phrygian Kidhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JefLong
<p>thnx. its also pretty universal, i've done it for CBGs, bowljos, a-frame strummers (takes a little care, a strip of lining on the inside..), neck thru solid bodies and many many cookie tins</p>
<p>thnx. its also pretty universal, i've done it for CBGs, bowljos, a-frame strummers (takes a little care, a strip of lining on the inside..), neck thru solid bodies and many many cookie tins</p> try this http://handmademusic…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-06:2592684:Comment:22504452015-03-06T10:50:23.350ZThe Phrygian Kidhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JefLong
<p>try this <a href="http://handmademusicclubhouse.com/photo/thetinyguitarsbodyendscarfjoin-1?context=user" target="_blank">http://handmademusicclubhouse.com/photo/thetinyguitarsbodyendscarfjoin-1?context=user</a></p>
<p>try this <a href="http://handmademusicclubhouse.com/photo/thetinyguitarsbodyendscarfjoin-1?context=user" target="_blank">http://handmademusicclubhouse.com/photo/thetinyguitarsbodyendscarfjoin-1?context=user</a></p> Richey, I'd be interested to…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-06:2592684:Comment:22504942015-03-06T10:44:00.161ZRobert Stapletonhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RobertStapleton
<p>Richey, I'd be interested to see the inside of one of your boxes if you have a pic you'd share. Someone mentioned putting in blocks that were bigger in the back of a neck through, but I'm picturing the bigger block being in the front to make the neck lean down.</p>
<p>Richey, I'd be interested to see the inside of one of your boxes if you have a pic you'd share. Someone mentioned putting in blocks that were bigger in the back of a neck through, but I'm picturing the bigger block being in the front to make the neck lean down.</p> pussy....
tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-06:2592684:Comment:22504432015-03-06T08:23:03.299ZThe Phrygian Kidhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JefLong
<p><a href="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/jeflong/2012%2009%20MagicRat/f918eb33.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad348/jeflong/2012%2009%20MagicRat/f918eb33.jpg" class="align-full"/></a>pussy....</p>
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<p></p> Hopefully the picture above i…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-03-06:2592684:Comment:22504222015-03-06T06:07:08.456ZRichey Kayhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RickFenn
<p>Hopefully the picture above illustrates what I mean. You can see the neck at a slight angle to the box, with a high bridge and the action low all the way down.</p>
<p>Hopefully the picture above illustrates what I mean. You can see the neck at a slight angle to the box, with a high bridge and the action low all the way down.</p>