How low can you go? - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T12:30:33Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/how-low-can-you-go?feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks. It’s funny, but last…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-19:2592684:Comment:32217832018-10-19T14:57:44.863ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>Thanks. It’s funny, but last night I put “feeler gauges” on my harbor freight shopping list, I realized this was the way to do this (used to set up a terribly worn out milling machine using a similar method) and with my vision, FINDING my feeler gauges, that I haven’t seen in years, would be the hardest part. I’ll do it that way next time. </p>
<p>Thanks. It’s funny, but last night I put “feeler gauges” on my harbor freight shopping list, I realized this was the way to do this (used to set up a terribly worn out milling machine using a similar method) and with my vision, FINDING my feeler gauges, that I haven’t seen in years, would be the hardest part. I’ll do it that way next time. </p> Hey Bruce, if you have restri…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-19:2592684:Comment:32217422018-10-19T05:59:14.313ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hey Bruce, if you have restricted vision this method may help you, I just did this Telecaster nut using it.…</p>
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<p>Hey Bruce, if you have restricted vision this method may help you, I just did this Telecaster nut using it.</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306721839?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="721" class="align-center" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306721839?profile=RESIZE_1024x1024"></a> Cheers Taff</p> Hi, that's dead right Titch,…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-18:2592684:Comment:32215442018-10-18T23:45:39.304ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, that's dead right Titch, would you believe I've had the same half a pencil for marking nuts for over 30 years and still going strong. </p>
<p>The one I made for the CBG bench is going to last even longer as the nuts are shorter, ha ha.</p>
<p>Taff</p>
<p>Hi, that's dead right Titch, would you believe I've had the same half a pencil for marking nuts for over 30 years and still going strong. </p>
<p>The one I made for the CBG bench is going to last even longer as the nuts are shorter, ha ha.</p>
<p>Taff</p> The above tips only work for…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-18:2592684:Comment:32212322018-10-18T05:10:42.904ZTitch the Clownhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TitchtheClown
<p>The above tips only work for one fret height.</p>
<p>The pros use a pencil cut in half to mark the height of the frets on the nut. Then after making the rough cut they creep up on the ideal height they define by feeling the gap under the string at the first fret when a finger holds the strong down between the 2nd and 3rd fret. Old timey luthiers would aim for a cigarette paper thickness or precisely one gnat's whisker.</p>
<p>The above tips only work for one fret height.</p>
<p>The pros use a pencil cut in half to mark the height of the frets on the nut. Then after making the rough cut they creep up on the ideal height they define by feeling the gap under the string at the first fret when a finger holds the strong down between the 2nd and 3rd fret. Old timey luthiers would aim for a cigarette paper thickness or precisely one gnat's whisker.</p> Good to know. I just kinda co…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-18:2592684:Comment:32210332018-10-18T01:40:04.243ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>Good to know. I just kinda copied some of the contour I could find. A nice ramped wide slot. I’ll look for buzzing. Thanks. </p>
<p>Good to know. I just kinda copied some of the contour I could find. A nice ramped wide slot. I’ll look for buzzing. Thanks. </p> Hi again,. Tip, don't forget…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-17:2592684:Comment:32211042018-10-17T23:09:12.665ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi again,. Tip, don't forget to lower the top of the nut so that the strings sit on the slot not down in it. About half the strings diameter above the slot is good. Prevents string sticking in their groove and buzzing in the slots.</p>
<p>Taff</p>
<p>Hi again,. Tip, don't forget to lower the top of the nut so that the strings sit on the slot not down in it. About half the strings diameter above the slot is good. Prevents string sticking in their groove and buzzing in the slots.</p>
<p>Taff</p> Ok guys. My fingers thank yo…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-17:2592684:Comment:32211022018-10-17T22:47:33.050ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>Ok guys. My fingers thank you. I probably took about 1/64 (.015” give or take) off each notch, and I’ve still likely got room for a sheet of printer paper (.003”) under the dime on the fattest G string, and just touching the dime with the high G string. No fret buzz and it feels a bunch better. </p>
<p>Ok guys. My fingers thank you. I probably took about 1/64 (.015” give or take) off each notch, and I’ve still likely got room for a sheet of printer paper (.003”) under the dime on the fattest G string, and just touching the dime with the high G string. No fret buzz and it feels a bunch better. </p> I used a dime on the fretboar…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-17:2592684:Comment:32210192018-10-17T22:08:51.824ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>I used a dime on the fretboard and marked the bone then filed the notches initially. I note now the dime under the strings at the nut still has a bit of clearance. My only frame of reference is the Tin Pan Alley kit with a mounted fretboard on the neck, that uses a zero fret and string “comb” rather than a nut per se. it is much lower and easier to play, but part of that is likely the bronze vs nickel strings. So I’m gonna give it a go with a file again. With my legally blind eyes, this is…</p>
<p>I used a dime on the fretboard and marked the bone then filed the notches initially. I note now the dime under the strings at the nut still has a bit of clearance. My only frame of reference is the Tin Pan Alley kit with a mounted fretboard on the neck, that uses a zero fret and string “comb” rather than a nut per se. it is much lower and easier to play, but part of that is likely the bronze vs nickel strings. So I’m gonna give it a go with a file again. With my legally blind eyes, this is one operation that is a little tricky, but worst case scenario I scrap out a bone nut. </p> The thickness of a dime works…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-17:2592684:Comment:32209412018-10-17T21:52:14.859ZUncle Johnhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JohnBolton
<p>The thickness of a dime works good for me. Electric strings play and slide easier and you lose less acoustic volume than most folks think. Musicians Friend has a brand of Musicians Gear strings that are quite good for about $3 a set. Spend more than $10 and shipping is free in the lower 48 U.S. Great place to deal with and if you try a stringed instrument or amp (and lots of other stuff) and don't like it - send it back. </p>
<p>Hey, you do mean the thickness of a dime and not the…</p>
<p>The thickness of a dime works good for me. Electric strings play and slide easier and you lose less acoustic volume than most folks think. Musicians Friend has a brand of Musicians Gear strings that are quite good for about $3 a set. Spend more than $10 and shipping is free in the lower 48 U.S. Great place to deal with and if you try a stringed instrument or amp (and lots of other stuff) and don't like it - send it back. </p>
<p>Hey, you do mean the thickness of a dime and not the standing height?</p> Hi, for my cbg's I eyeball i…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-10-17:2592684:Comment:32211912018-10-17T21:48:12.771ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, for my cbg's I eyeball it. and go by feel.</p>
<p>It can depend on a few things when I set up a customers 6 string electrics. Things I keep in mind are: players style, some players may like to feel some resistance or use a slide</p>
<p>Gauge of strings. heavier gauges can go lower</p>
<p>I don't measure off of the fingerboard because fret heights vary, its the Hight above the fret that is important</p>
<p>My guidelines are measured in thousands and are different for under each string at…</p>
<p>Hi, for my cbg's I eyeball it. and go by feel.</p>
<p>It can depend on a few things when I set up a customers 6 string electrics. Things I keep in mind are: players style, some players may like to feel some resistance or use a slide</p>
<p>Gauge of strings. heavier gauges can go lower</p>
<p>I don't measure off of the fingerboard because fret heights vary, its the Hight above the fret that is important</p>
<p>My guidelines are measured in thousands and are different for under each string at the first fret [as it is for the strings over the saddle]</p>
<p>For instance, from bass to treble 15, 14, 13,12, 10, 9, thousandths of an inch. slightly higher for and acoustic 6 string. Above the first fret. I use feeler gauges to check my progress.</p>
<p>BUT, we are talking basic CBG's so for me with only 3 - 4 strings I just eyeball it for comfortable playing, and may have to adjust it for the customer anyway. </p>
<p>For the same gauge string the feel/tension can be different from type or brand due to the tightness or not of the winding and the material used.</p>
<p>Cheers Taff</p>
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