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Permalink Reply by Paul Doug on November 6, 2009 at 4:36pm

This is really worth a read. Thanks for posting.

Wes Yates said:

Guys, here is a great discussion on this in the American Association of Woodturners on this:

Here

Mad Dog Madda said:

Try some on a piece of scrap. My mix looked clear the first time I used it but it did work. It takes a little while for the wood to turn....I don't know what else to tell ya. Did you stir it up good?

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Permalink Reply by Al Allen (Hangten) on November 6, 2009 at 7:16pm

Thats what I was looking for thanks for all this great input. Its expanding my head!

Wes Yates said:

Guys, here is a great discussion on this in the American Association of Woodturners on this:

Here

Mad Dog Madda said:

Try some on a piece of scrap. My mix looked clear the first time I used it but it did work. It takes a little while for the wood to turn....I don't know what else to tell ya. Did you stir it up good?

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Permalink Reply by Al Allen (Hangten) on November 12, 2009 at 7:14pm

Well gang, I discovered a great stain made with pomegranate juice at vinegar. Mix it to any strength you want and the stain is lovely on oak and poplar. I haven't tried it on any other samples yet.

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Permalink Reply by Roger Martin on November 13, 2009 at 6:55pm

If your looking for a cheap color stain, I use food coloring , it works fine.

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Permalink Reply by Wes "I'm Baaaaack" Yates on November 14, 2009 at 10:08am

I just tried the steel wool/vinegar stain on oak--- man did it to a great job. WOW. I'll post pics soon.

-Wes

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Permalink Reply by Michael Hutchins on November 17, 2009 at 3:59am

Whilst I was in Germany I was told that they currently have very strict requirements reagrding restoration of old buildings. Many of these are painted with Pig's blood. (from memory) That familiar dark trim on german buildings is traditionally, blood stain. It's also used extensively on the interior. There is a german govt department setup to over see this , so there must be current info available. Buttermilk is used in the mix. I'm sorry i don't know the rest of the ingredients but maybe google some german renovation sites. Also there was a pigment called Prussian Blue , used in the 1700s using blood as a base. I'm sorry my knowledge of stains is very limited, but maybe this info might assist your search :)

Keni Lee Burgess said:

I have a question. Does anyone know about Ox blood stain? I have read that in the early rural days in the US, stains were made out of blood. Mixing Methods and other binding ingredients are vague. I am assuming this stain was cooked or prepared in a way so that the blood did not go rancid. I know, a little macabre, but being frugal, nothing was wasted. True to the CBG spirit.
Thank you for your input, Keni Lee

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Permalink Reply by Dave V on November 17, 2009 at 6:03am

I thought I just read about ebonizing here just less than a week ago. It works because the iron mixture reacts to the tannins in the wood. This isn't like a surface finish, the wood actually turns dark making it suitable for high wear areas like fretboards.

Do a Google search on "ebonizing" for details, but basically if the wood doesn't darken on it's own after the steel wool/vinegar mixture, you need to add tannins to the wood. You can do this by soaking it in black tea or a commercial tannic acid solution. You do this in two steps so the reaction happens in the wood, not in the bottle or on the rag. Sand, wet the wood to raise the grain, sand again, etc... You don't want to be too agressive with fine sanding as you don't want to "burnish" the wood, you need some open pores for this to work. Brush on the tannic acid solution of your choice, let it soak in, and then with a clean cloth apply the iron mixture. It should turn black instantly. The depth of the color depends on how porous the wood is, and how far down the tannic acid solution soaked in.

Again, a Google search turns up all sorts of home brew recipes, but the basic concept is the same in all of them.

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Permalink Reply by Dave V on November 18, 2009 at 7:34am

I found the article that I was talking about. You can read it here:

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/Ebonizing_Wood/

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Permalink Reply by Paul Doug on November 18, 2009 at 3:02pm

That's a great article. Thanks for looking it up nd posting.

Dave V said:

I found the article that I was talking about. You can read it here:

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/Ebonizing_Wood/

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Permalink Reply by Al Allen (Hangten) on November 18, 2009 at 6:37pm

Paul, Thanks for this info. I have had some success with this type of staining.

Paul Doug said:

That's a great article. Thanks for looking it up nd posting.

Dave V said:

I found the article that I was talking about. You can read it here:

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/Ebonizing_Wood/

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Permalink Reply by Al Allen (Hangten) on November 18, 2009 at 6:39pm

Dave, thanks for this reference to staining, very interesting.

Dave V said:

I found the article that I was talking about. You can read it here:

http://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/Ebonizing_Wood/

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Permalink Reply by Gary Austin Duncan on November 23, 2009 at 7:46am

http://www.woodworking.org/WC/Garchive01/3_27colorants.html

The link has a few ideas as to how to do up wood.

Gary

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