Headless three string building and playing. What I learned. - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T19:19:58Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/headless-three-string-building-and-playing-what-i-learned?xg_source=activity&id=2592684%3ATopic%3A3332368&feed=yes&xn_auth=noit Isn’t bad. Feed a string o…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-12:2592684:Comment:33428122019-06-12T12:11:22.872ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>it Isn’t bad. Feed a string over the roller, straight down through the hole, grab it with hemostats, push it through the eye in the peg, and grab the end with a second hemostat or needle nose, and wind up the slack. Think of the way a doctor sutures up a wound.</p>
<p>it Isn’t bad. Feed a string over the roller, straight down through the hole, grab it with hemostats, push it through the eye in the peg, and grab the end with a second hemostat or needle nose, and wind up the slack. Think of the way a doctor sutures up a wound.</p> Very nicely executed! Howeve…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-12:2592684:Comment:33425712019-06-12T09:50:46.328ZRichard Murrellhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RichardMurrell
<p>Very nicely executed! However, I have one question: what's it like getting the strings into the hiidden away tuners?</p>
<p>Very nicely executed! However, I have one question: what's it like getting the strings into the hiidden away tuners?</p> Wow, sexy 25”tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-09:2592684:Comment:33411732019-06-09T01:24:32.490ZTim Pannabeckerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TimPannabecker
<p>Wow, sexy 25”</p>
<p>Wow, sexy 25”</p> Mark -bone nut
Tim, 25 inch s…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-09:2592684:Comment:33413162019-06-09T00:19:44.139ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>Mark -bone nut</p>
<p>Tim, 25 inch scale, CB Gitty walnut fretboard. </p>
<p>Strings are D’Addario .044, .034, .024 tuned LMM GDG</p>
<p>Someone also asked what the pulley block is made of. It is the maple neck tail end. The tuners and string guide rollers are also mounted on a maple block transverse to the tailpiece. It’s all braced and glued together, no screws anywhere except the anti rotation screws holding tuners, and serving as single point ground.</p>
<p>Mark -bone nut</p>
<p>Tim, 25 inch scale, CB Gitty walnut fretboard. </p>
<p>Strings are D’Addario .044, .034, .024 tuned LMM GDG</p>
<p>Someone also asked what the pulley block is made of. It is the maple neck tail end. The tuners and string guide rollers are also mounted on a maple block transverse to the tailpiece. It’s all braced and glued together, no screws anywhere except the anti rotation screws holding tuners, and serving as single point ground.</p> Brilliant. I have been conc…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-08:2592684:Comment:33411392019-06-08T21:57:34.851ZTim Pannabeckerhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TimPannabecker
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<p>Brilliant. I have been conceptualizing intriguing Tuner options, but your execution is exquisite. I didn’t see the scale size you built, cause it looks long. Absolutely a heirloom piece of art.</p>
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<p>Brilliant. I have been conceptualizing intriguing Tuner options, but your execution is exquisite. I didn’t see the scale size you built, cause it looks long. Absolutely a heirloom piece of art.</p> Beautiful work all the way ar…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-08:2592684:Comment:33407822019-06-08T17:55:12.753ZRough Cut Guitarshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RoughCutTom
<p>Beautiful work all the way around Bruce! I never weigh in on how to build - starts too many bar fights - but you seem to want to maximize acoustic volume and mentioned you build your neck level to the body. If I read that right, I strongly suggest you add back angle to your repetoire. This has almost doubled the acoustic volume of my builds as well as improving playability. Anything from1.5 to 2 degrees makes a big difference. Even on all-electrics, it lets you keep the string height sweet…</p>
<p>Beautiful work all the way around Bruce! I never weigh in on how to build - starts too many bar fights - but you seem to want to maximize acoustic volume and mentioned you build your neck level to the body. If I read that right, I strongly suggest you add back angle to your repetoire. This has almost doubled the acoustic volume of my builds as well as improving playability. Anything from1.5 to 2 degrees makes a big difference. Even on all-electrics, it lets you keep the string height sweet and LOW - whether neck-thru or set-neck - while allowing a slimmer fingerboard height over the body without your pick or fingers contacting the box or pickup. Just my two cents but I learned it from Richie Kay and want to pay it forward. Now Imhave to look for your sound sample!</p> Well thought out, and I like…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-08:2592684:Comment:33407792019-06-08T16:11:46.732ZMark Blisshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/MarkBliss
<p>Well thought out, and I like it alot. </p>
<p>Zero fret I assume too. </p>
<p>Other than perhaps a little more space around the tuner knobs, I may at some point "borrow" heavily from this! Nice!</p>
<p>Well thought out, and I like it alot. </p>
<p>Zero fret I assume too. </p>
<p>Other than perhaps a little more space around the tuner knobs, I may at some point "borrow" heavily from this! Nice!</p> The roller tailpiece is the t…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-08:2592684:Comment:33409612019-06-08T15:47:02.925ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>The roller tailpiece is the tail end of the maple neck, slotted to accept the pulleys, and cross drilled to accept the axle. Much like a traditional block and tackle. The other part of the rig is a crossways oriented cutoff of the maple neck, drilled to accept the tuning heads and two string guide rollers that route the upper and lower strings from the tailpiece to the tuning heads. Aside from the tuning heads, nothing screws together. The axle pins are snug slip fit and trapped, and the…</p>
<p>The roller tailpiece is the tail end of the maple neck, slotted to accept the pulleys, and cross drilled to accept the axle. Much like a traditional block and tackle. The other part of the rig is a crossways oriented cutoff of the maple neck, drilled to accept the tuning heads and two string guide rollers that route the upper and lower strings from the tailpiece to the tuning heads. Aside from the tuning heads, nothing screws together. The axle pins are snug slip fit and trapped, and the entire structure glued up using reinforcing blocks as needed. </p> It’s smooth end to end, polis…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-08:2592684:Comment:33407732019-06-08T15:36:04.457ZBruce Younghttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BruceYoung
<p>It’s smooth end to end, polished stainless, a dowel pin. Were I thinking of using it to shred, I would’ve tried grooves, but thought for my style it would be ok smooth, and that made controlling string height and insuring smooth string pull over bridge.</p>
<p>It’s smooth end to end, polished stainless, a dowel pin. Were I thinking of using it to shred, I would’ve tried grooves, but thought for my style it would be ok smooth, and that made controlling string height and insuring smooth string pull over bridge.</p> Very nicely executed Bruce!
I…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-06-08:2592684:Comment:33410162019-06-08T14:31:29.378ZMark Blisshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/MarkBliss
<p>Very nicely executed Bruce!</p>
<p>I've brainstormed and designed for a headless, but was never happy. Too complex as you say. This is functional simplicity. I like it!</p>
<p>Is the "roller block" wood?</p>
<p>Very nicely executed Bruce!</p>
<p>I've brainstormed and designed for a headless, but was never happy. Too complex as you say. This is functional simplicity. I like it!</p>
<p>Is the "roller block" wood?</p>