Fret board Length - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T12:06:39Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/fret-board-length?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noComing from the electric 6 st…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-19:2592684:Comment:32749272019-01-19T19:11:05.908ZPaul Craighttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/PaulCraig
<p>Coming from the electric 6 string guitar world, I was used to the Fender 25.5" scale and the Gibson 24.5" to 24.75" scale. The 25.5" scale tends to have better harmonics while the Gibson scales were better with string bends and more warmth in tone.</p>
<p>Then I got a PRS type guitar with the 25" scale and everything felt right to me. I get good harmonics, warmer tone, good string bends without finger pain and the spacing between the frets "fits" my fingers well.</p>
<p>All my CBG builds…</p>
<p>Coming from the electric 6 string guitar world, I was used to the Fender 25.5" scale and the Gibson 24.5" to 24.75" scale. The 25.5" scale tends to have better harmonics while the Gibson scales were better with string bends and more warmth in tone.</p>
<p>Then I got a PRS type guitar with the 25" scale and everything felt right to me. I get good harmonics, warmer tone, good string bends without finger pain and the spacing between the frets "fits" my fingers well.</p>
<p>All my CBG builds have been 25" since then with the exception of a couple Baritones. I don't see myself making or buying anything in the guitar range over 25" scale. I'm even considering a short scale bass in the future.</p>
<p>The shorter scale guitars often require bigger gauge strings that can change the tone.</p> Thank you. Slippery slope if…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-16:2592684:Comment:32735202019-01-16T23:16:30.191ZDaniel Walterhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/DanielWalter
<p>Thank you. Slippery slope if you want it right.</p>
<p>Thank you. Slippery slope if you want it right.</p> Hi, I was going through my ph…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-16:2592684:Comment:32737952019-01-16T23:11:52.511ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, I was going through my photo library and came across a series of photos on the intonation subject.</p>
<p>In the photo you can see that I have not glued down the bridge at this stage. I string up the guitar, in this case just the two 'E's I move the bridge checking the intonation as I go on my tuner.</p>
<p>The devise that is also shown is one I made up to make the bridge moving task easier to fine tune.</p>
<p>Use the gauge strings and action height that you intend to play. I have…</p>
<p>Hi, I was going through my photo library and came across a series of photos on the intonation subject.</p>
<p>In the photo you can see that I have not glued down the bridge at this stage. I string up the guitar, in this case just the two 'E's I move the bridge checking the intonation as I go on my tuner.</p>
<p>The devise that is also shown is one I made up to make the bridge moving task easier to fine tune.</p>
<p>Use the gauge strings and action height that you intend to play. I have different saddles with different areas of contact. </p>
<p>I've used it for years electric or acoustic.</p>
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<p>Cheers Taff</p> I want to thank everyone for…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-16:2592684:Comment:32734372019-01-16T13:42:47.317ZTim Castagnolahttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TimCastagnola
<p>I want to thank everyone for their input and advise. This is a wonderful community. My schedule is tough for the next couple of weeks but I will post pictures when the build is done.</p>
<p>I want to thank everyone for their input and advise. This is a wonderful community. My schedule is tough for the next couple of weeks but I will post pictures when the build is done.</p> Awesome looking bass, nice wo…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-15:2592684:Comment:32730692019-01-15T23:53:28.685ZKorriganhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Korrigan
<p>Awesome looking bass, nice work Daniel!<br/><br/>I was able to fix my mistake without moving the bridge but it required cutting one of the springs in half and leaving one off altogether.</p>
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<p>Awesome looking bass, nice work Daniel!<br/><br/>I was able to fix my mistake without moving the bridge but it required cutting one of the springs in half and leaving one off altogether.</p>
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<p></p> Korrigan, I took my first "Re…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-15:2592684:Comment:32730402019-01-15T20:34:14.522ZDaniel Walterhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/DanielWalter
<p>Korrigan, I took my first "Real" 34'' scale bass to a guitar tech for final setup. (photo). (I was also taking repair lessons from him). He asked me to move the bridge forward 1/4''. Took me 4 hours. Went to pick it up, he said, "can you put it back where it was?"!! This is why I appreciate your advice.…<a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/769841420?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-full" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/769841420?profile=RESIZE_710x"></img></a></p>
<p>Korrigan, I took my first "Real" 34'' scale bass to a guitar tech for final setup. (photo). (I was also taking repair lessons from him). He asked me to move the bridge forward 1/4''. Took me 4 hours. Went to pick it up, he said, "can you put it back where it was?"!! This is why I appreciate your advice.<a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/769841420?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/769841420?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> Thank you. Exactly what I've…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-15:2592684:Comment:32730952019-01-15T18:14:46.581ZDaniel Walterhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/DanielWalter
<p>Thank you. Exactly what I've experienced and what I was asking. Makes Sense.</p>
<p>Thank you. Exactly what I've experienced and what I was asking. Makes Sense.</p> If you're talking about a har…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-15:2592684:Comment:32727412019-01-15T12:32:12.284ZKorriganhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/Korrigan
<p>If you're talking about a hardtail bridge that allows you to move the saddles to make the vibrating length of the string longer or shorter... <br></br><br></br>After my first failed attempt, taking the advice that I start with the saddles in the middle of their travel, and then running out of adjustment when I tried to set intonation, I now adjust the saddles almost all the way forward before mounting it.</p>
<p>The scale length is a theoretical measurement and your thinnest string will be closest…</p>
<p>If you're talking about a hardtail bridge that allows you to move the saddles to make the vibrating length of the string longer or shorter... <br/><br/>After my first failed attempt, taking the advice that I start with the saddles in the middle of their travel, and then running out of adjustment when I tried to set intonation, I now adjust the saddles almost all the way forward before mounting it.</p>
<p>The scale length is a theoretical measurement and your thinnest string will be closest to your chosen scale length with thicker strings needing to be slightly longer. If you place the saddles exactly at scale length with this kind of bridge knowing that all your adjustments will be to make the strings longer, never shorter, starting with them adjusted forward makes the most sense.</p> Same string, tuned to the sam…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-15:2592684:Comment:32729892019-01-15T11:18:53.466ZJLhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JL239
Same string, tuned to the same note, on a shorter scale, is under less tension, floppier, so yeah a 'darker' instead of brighter tone, it sustains less of the higher order harmonics.<br />
Scale is always the length of the 'active' part of the string (nut to bridge before compensation).
Same string, tuned to the same note, on a shorter scale, is under less tension, floppier, so yeah a 'darker' instead of brighter tone, it sustains less of the higher order harmonics.<br />
Scale is always the length of the 'active' part of the string (nut to bridge before compensation). Same string, tuned to the sam…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2019-01-15:2592684:Comment:32729862019-01-15T11:17:24.500ZJLhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JL239
Same string, tuned to the same note, on a shorter scale, is under less tension, floppier, so yeah a 'darker' instead of brighter tone, it sustains less of the higher order harmonics.<br />
Scale is always the length of the 'active' part of the string (nut to bridge before compensation).
Same string, tuned to the same note, on a shorter scale, is under less tension, floppier, so yeah a 'darker' instead of brighter tone, it sustains less of the higher order harmonics.<br />
Scale is always the length of the 'active' part of the string (nut to bridge before compensation).