DIY Tuning pegs - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T12:56:25Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/diy-tuning-pegs?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A3236026&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOne reason there isn't a ton…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-11:2592684:Comment:32360262018-11-11T20:03:50.831ZTom Thttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TomTemple
<p>One reason there isn't a ton of information on "Improv" tuners is that it is usually a great deal of work that, in the end, doesn't work so well. If you want an instrument you can play on a regular basis, then you would want it to hold tune. Eye bolts and friction pegs just don't seem to be able to hold tune very well with metal strings.</p>
<p>I guess you could go back to cat-gut strings or something like that and get away with improv tuners, but if the point is a daily player, then take…</p>
<p>One reason there isn't a ton of information on "Improv" tuners is that it is usually a great deal of work that, in the end, doesn't work so well. If you want an instrument you can play on a regular basis, then you would want it to hold tune. Eye bolts and friction pegs just don't seem to be able to hold tune very well with metal strings.</p>
<p>I guess you could go back to cat-gut strings or something like that and get away with improv tuners, but if the point is a daily player, then take advantage of the materials that will help provide that.</p>
<p></p> Invested in a peg shaver and…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-08:2592684:Comment:32326572018-11-08T14:23:21.091ZJLhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JL239
<p>Invested in a peg shaver and peg hole reamer and made my own out of scrap oak in a maple headstock, worked well.</p>
<p>not as precise as tuning machines, and since the machines are dirt cheap....</p>
<p>Invested in a peg shaver and peg hole reamer and made my own out of scrap oak in a maple headstock, worked well.</p>
<p>not as precise as tuning machines, and since the machines are dirt cheap....</p> My latest reinvention of the…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-07:2592684:Comment:32326032018-11-07T20:10:33.513ZTitch the Clownhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TitchtheClown
<p>My latest reinvention of the wheel is using nails as zither pins. Hammer one end flat, put a hole in it for the string, use sandpaper to mimic microthreads drive it into a hole a drill size or so smaller than the nail. <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/133467251?profile=original" rel="noopener" target="_blank"><img class="align-left" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/133467251?profile=original&width=500" width="500"></img></a></p>
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<p>I get two out of a 100 mm nail by cutting them in half. More detail in how …</p>
<p>My latest reinvention of the wheel is using nails as zither pins. Hammer one end flat, put a hole in it for the string, use sandpaper to mimic microthreads drive it into a hole a drill size or so smaller than the nail. <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/133467251?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/133467251?profile=original&width=500" width="500" class="align-left"/></a></p>
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<p>I get two out of a 100 mm nail by cutting them in half. More detail in how used them for this build</p>
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<p>For an even lower tech solution the original design of asian long zithers like the koto had no tuners. The strings were tied on as tight as possible and tuning was done by either moving the bridges and/ or swapping the bridges for higher or lower ones. Modern ones use regular zither pins. Check out Luna Lee doing ACDC covers on a <span>gayageum, the Korean version.</span></p> I've tried a few alternatives…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-07:2592684:Comment:32323722018-11-07T15:45:36.297Zdarryl kernaghanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/darrylkernaghan
<p>I've tried a few alternatives, some have worked ok, many have just eaten strings, I truly recommend, even for the most funky/down home roots machine, manufactured tuners, if you choose to ignore this advice, fine, it suggests you are serious, but the effort required, and the failure rate, says to me, "do I need this crap to save 3 bucks"?</p>
<p>I've tried a few alternatives, some have worked ok, many have just eaten strings, I truly recommend, even for the most funky/down home roots machine, manufactured tuners, if you choose to ignore this advice, fine, it suggests you are serious, but the effort required, and the failure rate, says to me, "do I need this crap to save 3 bucks"?</p> Yep, I tried the locking eye…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-07:2592684:Comment:32321492018-11-07T04:35:23.527ZVern Halletthttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/VernHallett
<p>Yep, I tried the locking eye bolt tuner configuration also.</p>
<p>Yep, I tried the locking eye bolt tuner configuration also.</p> Hi, there has been a fair bit…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-07:2592684:Comment:32324302018-11-07T04:04:26.353ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, there has been a fair bit of info posted on here, but it's posted and filed away.somewhere I imagine.</p>
<p>Original CBG builders didn't have the internet either, if one wants to take DIY one step further then, necessity is the mother of invention. </p>
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<p>Hi, there has been a fair bit of info posted on here, but it's posted and filed away.somewhere I imagine.</p>
<p>Original CBG builders didn't have the internet either, if one wants to take DIY one step further then, necessity is the mother of invention. </p>
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<p></p> Lot's here , and some explana…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-07:2592684:Comment:32322232018-11-07T02:11:39.245Zthe anonymous pickhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/theanonymouspick
<p>Lot's here , and some explanations too.</p>
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<p>Lot's here , and some explanations too.</p>
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<p></p> Yes , indeed it could be a be…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-07:2592684:Comment:32323182018-11-07T02:05:36.238ZBrianQ.https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BrianQ
<p>Yes , indeed it could be a bear to tune that style. I remember putting a nut on both sides of the alum. angle to maintain a better grip on eye bolt? Cheers, looks good </p>
<p>Yes , indeed it could be a bear to tune that style. I remember putting a nut on both sides of the alum. angle to maintain a better grip on eye bolt? Cheers, looks good </p> I use a piece of aluminum ang…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-11-07:2592684:Comment:32321242018-11-07T00:21:49.344ZVern Halletthttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/VernHallett
<p>I use a piece of aluminum angle and an eye bolt for one stringers. Made a 2 stringer the same way. Hard to tune it though. <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306728908?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306728908?profile=original" width="600" class="align-center"></a></p>
<p>I use a piece of aluminum angle and an eye bolt for one stringers. Made a 2 stringer the same way. Hard to tune it though. <a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306728908?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/306728908?profile=original" width="600" class="align-center"></a></p>