Dead "E" blues - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T15:28:44Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/dead-e-blues?commentId=2592684%3AComment%3A3450466&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi, in your opening post you…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-29:2592684:Comment:34504662020-02-29T00:15:26.452ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, in your opening post you mentioned the top was joined by a tongue and groove joint. In case you thought that that may be detrimental, I mentioned that good acoustic instruments have top and back plates joined down their centre.<br></br> I only do it on cbgs to get a larger top or back panel.<br></br> In case anybody is interested, the reason for “book matching”, slicing a board and opening it like a book and then gluing together has several benefits.<br></br> 1- The close grain sides of the ½ board…</p>
<p>Hi, in your opening post you mentioned the top was joined by a tongue and groove joint. In case you thought that that may be detrimental, I mentioned that good acoustic instruments have top and back plates joined down their centre.<br/> I only do it on cbgs to get a larger top or back panel.<br/> In case anybody is interested, the reason for “book matching”, slicing a board and opening it like a book and then gluing together has several benefits.<br/> 1- The close grain sides of the ½ board faces are glued together. That makes the centre of the top stiffer and stronger. The outside edges are more flexible.<br/> 2- There is also a more uniform layout of grain lines that aids in better sound production<br/> 3- On the back it allows for the matching of complex grain patterns.<br/> The photos my explain this better.</p>
<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959746217?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img class="align-center" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959746217?profile=RESIZE_710x"/></a> <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959751110?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img class="align-center" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959751110?profile=RESIZE_710x"/></a> <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959755553?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img class="align-center" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959755553?profile=RESIZE_710x"/></a> But.. you don't have to follow the rules, here is a three piece back. <a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959767119?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img class="align-center" src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3959767119?profile=RESIZE_710x"/></a></p> tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-28:2592684:Comment:34505042020-02-28T17:30:34.240ZJDhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JoeDoyle
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<p><a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3956938355?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3956938355?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> Ha, joke is on me. I was just…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-28:2592684:Comment:34505022020-02-28T17:17:15.728ZJDhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JoeDoyle
<p>Ha, joke is on me. I was just photographing the bass for the gallery and it fell and broke two of the ten inch long tuning pegs.</p>
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<p>Ha, joke is on me. I was just photographing the bass for the gallery and it fell and broke two of the ten inch long tuning pegs.</p>
<p></p> Taffy, what do you mean by "T…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-28:2592684:Comment:34505012020-02-28T17:11:30.023ZJDhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JoeDoyle
<p>Taffy, what do you mean by "Two-piece tops and backs are a requirement in well-built acoustic instruments."?</p>
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<p>Taffy, what do you mean by "Two-piece tops and backs are a requirement in well-built acoustic instruments."?</p>
<p></p> Thanks for all the replies. I…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-28:2592684:Comment:34504982020-02-28T17:09:47.981ZJDhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JoeDoyle
<p>Thanks for all the replies. I replaced the soundboard with 5mm ply and changed the sound hole cutouts. This improved all the strings but still the G sounds good and the others are progressively duller. I agree that I think the problem is primarily the strings. The strings are nylon with a kevlar core and the manufacturer says they are primarily use for rockabilly slapping. You can see in this video how the low notes don't sustain well even on a genuine upright. Still this guys uses them to…</p>
<p>Thanks for all the replies. I replaced the soundboard with 5mm ply and changed the sound hole cutouts. This improved all the strings but still the G sounds good and the others are progressively duller. I agree that I think the problem is primarily the strings. The strings are nylon with a kevlar core and the manufacturer says they are primarily use for rockabilly slapping. You can see in this video how the low notes don't sustain well even on a genuine upright. Still this guys uses them to great effect.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wghzwSr4T9o" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wghzwSr4T9o</a></p> Hi, here is my 2nd go at post…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-27:2592684:Comment:34500212020-02-27T23:40:32.832ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi, here is my 2nd go at posting here, [and it did not work this time either] although it will be a shorter version<br></br>Firstly, I don’t feel that weed Wacker cord has enough mass in them to drive the thick-ish top of your box. Deeper sounding instruments normally have a larger sound box and longer scales. Within a larger box comes more air, your strings must move a thicker top that in turn has to move more air, which carries the sound…. or not.<br></br>You will recall that strings are “wound”…</p>
<p>Hi, here is my 2nd go at posting here, [and it did not work this time either] although it will be a shorter version<br/>Firstly, I don’t feel that weed Wacker cord has enough mass in them to drive the thick-ish top of your box. Deeper sounding instruments normally have a larger sound box and longer scales. Within a larger box comes more air, your strings must move a thicker top that in turn has to move more air, which carries the sound…. or not.<br/>You will recall that strings are “wound” so as to add that mass, as they go from treble to bass they get heavier. <br/>Two-piece tops and backs are a requirement in well-built acoustic instruments.<br/>The sides do not play a part and are not that important in the sound producing cycle, other than being stiff enough not to rob the top and back of vibrations. <br/>Taff</p> Another lost post?? It seams…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-27:2592684:Comment:34500972020-02-27T19:38:03.558ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Another lost post?? It seams above. But maybe fixed now?</p>
<p>Another lost post?? It seams above. But maybe fixed now?</p> tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-25:2592684:Comment:34490162020-02-25T03:51:35.569ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
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<p></p> The thickness of the body pla…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2020-02-23:2592684:Comment:34484882020-02-23T23:16:45.553ZCause the Blue rathttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/CausetheBluerat
<p>The thickness of the body plays a big part in how much sound you get. The thicker the wood the less over all sound. Even the sides and back matter. </p>
<p>The thickness of the body plays a big part in how much sound you get. The thicker the wood the less over all sound. Even the sides and back matter. </p>