CBG "resonator" question? - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-28T13:25:43Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topics/cbg-resonator-question?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Richard just posted neck b…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-02-23:2592684:Comment:30588572018-02-23T01:10:05.064ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi Richard just posted neck block info in new post.</p>
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<p>Hi Richard just posted neck block info in new post.</p>
<p>Taff</p> My reso with a Atchison cone…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-02-22:2592684:Comment:30586432018-02-22T20:45:09.886ZJerry Jordanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/JerryJordan
<p>My reso with a Atchison cone has the neck thru too.,.,but to answer your question, you just brace the box real well.,.,I used a steamer lid that looked like a fire bell one time and the neck was not neck thru.,,.bracing solved the stress .,.,.,</p>
<p>My reso with a Atchison cone has the neck thru too.,.,but to answer your question, you just brace the box real well.,.,I used a steamer lid that looked like a fire bell one time and the neck was not neck thru.,,.bracing solved the stress .,.,.,</p> Thanks, I've been woodworking…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-02-22:2592684:Comment:30582462018-02-22T15:05:47.898ZRichard Deanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RichardDean
<p>Thanks, I've been woodworking for many years, but you sir have some mad skills!</p>
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<p>Thanks, I've been woodworking for many years, but you sir have some mad skills!</p>
<p></p> Hi Richard, I'm collating pho…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-02-22:2592684:Comment:30580082018-02-22T05:34:51.429ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi Richard, I'm collating photos and will post soon.</p>
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<p>Hi Richard, I'm collating photos and will post soon.</p>
<p>Taff</p> Hey Taff, if not proprietary,…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-02-21:2592684:Comment:30572202018-02-21T12:26:07.126ZRichard Deanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RichardDean
<p>Hey Taff, if not proprietary, I would really like to see more pics and details of your neck block setups, I'm impressed by the strength you state especially with the minimal intrusion in the box. Like you, I only do through necks on actual Cigar Boxes due to their lack of strength, I mostly prefer to build my own boxes and with those do a bolt on, but my neck bolt on are completely inside the box with a lot of bracing. By the way, gorgeous Resonator!</p>
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<p>Hey Taff, if not proprietary, I would really like to see more pics and details of your neck block setups, I'm impressed by the strength you state especially with the minimal intrusion in the box. Like you, I only do through necks on actual Cigar Boxes due to their lack of strength, I mostly prefer to build my own boxes and with those do a bolt on, but my neck bolt on are completely inside the box with a lot of bracing. By the way, gorgeous Resonator!</p>
<p></p> Wow, pretty git there. Yeah,…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-01-17:2592684:Comment:30307862018-01-17T03:36:45.795ZSnuffy Smithhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/BobSmith431
<p>Wow, pretty git there. Yeah, I'm not the builder here. I've got a builder putting this together for me. I'm crossing my fingers it sounds good.</p>
<p>Wow, pretty git there. Yeah, I'm not the builder here. I've got a builder putting this together for me. I'm crossing my fingers it sounds good.</p> Hi again Snuffy, I sorted out…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-01-17:2592684:Comment:30303852018-01-17T03:21:38.629ZTaffy Evanshttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/TaffyEvans
<p>Hi again Snuffy, I sorted out some photos of a build I did some years ago.</p>
<p>As you can see there is no support needed between the neck and tail end of the box. A suitably sized neck block and tail block plus the top and the back, will all contribute to stopping the box from collapsing from string tension. My reso's no matter what the cone used stay in tune.</p>
<p>You can, like I have, make the sides thicker than normal if you are concerned as the sides do not play a part in the…</p>
<p>Hi again Snuffy, I sorted out some photos of a build I did some years ago.</p>
<p>As you can see there is no support needed between the neck and tail end of the box. A suitably sized neck block and tail block plus the top and the back, will all contribute to stopping the box from collapsing from string tension. My reso's no matter what the cone used stay in tune.</p>
<p>You can, like I have, make the sides thicker than normal if you are concerned as the sides do not play a part in the sound quality, but the top and the back do. My tops and backs are normally pretty thin but are braced accordingly.</p>
<p>This is a six stringer and was very stable, even with all the cutouts for the pickup, soundholes and cone. Those areas are week and have been reinforced as shown.I hope this helps.</p>
<p>Cheers Taff</p>
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<p>Hi, I have only used a neck through the body system just to see what it is like, all my CBG's have a neck block, and/or a heal for neck support. even with my six strings I use a neck block and heal.</p>
<p>Having said that I also do not use a proper cigar box either, so I am not restricted by box dimensions. In the only actual cigar box I have used, again to test their use, I used a neck through system. I think it depends on what you want out of your instrument. For me putting a hunk of wood…</p>
<p>Hi, I have only used a neck through the body system just to see what it is like, all my CBG's have a neck block, and/or a heal for neck support. even with my six strings I use a neck block and heal.</p>
<p>Having said that I also do not use a proper cigar box either, so I am not restricted by box dimensions. In the only actual cigar box I have used, again to test their use, I used a neck through system. I think it depends on what you want out of your instrument. For me putting a hunk of wood into an already small box cuts down on available volume in the box, a bit picky I know, but I like to get as much as I can out of my CBG's as possible.</p>
<p>I would think that a suitably reinforced neck area in the box could be devised to take the strain of strings, there is only 3 of them, without going through the box.</p>
<p>But lets not forget that many of these guitars are built by people with no woodwork knowledge or tools and skills, so the easiest way may work best. As we increase our skills and understanding we can "try another way". As has been mention on here "there's more than one way to skin a cat"</p>
<p>Cheers Taff</p> Have a ton of projects, but b…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-01-16:2592684:Comment:30304622018-01-16T21:34:44.189ZRichard Deanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RichardDean
<p>Have a ton of projects, but busted water lines in the house have kept me busy, waiting for warmer weather to get back in my shop, -2 degrees tonight, the cold here won't let go for more than a day or 2.</p>
<p>Have to finish the reso, license plate build, more Fuente boxes a punch box and crap load of comacho boxes, plus a classical 6 string La Valenciana to finish restoring and doing a left hand conversion to. Plenty of projects, no time</p>
<p>Have a ton of projects, but busted water lines in the house have kept me busy, waiting for warmer weather to get back in my shop, -2 degrees tonight, the cold here won't let go for more than a day or 2.</p>
<p>Have to finish the reso, license plate build, more Fuente boxes a punch box and crap load of comacho boxes, plus a classical 6 string La Valenciana to finish restoring and doing a left hand conversion to. Plenty of projects, no time</p> Atchison's cones aren't that…tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2018-01-16:2592684:Comment:30304592018-01-16T21:30:38.110ZRichard Deanhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/RichardDean
<p>Atchison's cones aren't that deep, my neck doesn't go all the way through, but it could with just a little notching. I made mine bolt on and I have his 7" thunder cone</p>
<p>you can see here it's just resting on the through portion of the neck, the cone will actually be a lot higher as it mounts to the top of the lid…</p>
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<p>Atchison's cones aren't that deep, my neck doesn't go all the way through, but it could with just a little notching. I made mine bolt on and I have his 7" thunder cone</p>
<p>you can see here it's just resting on the through portion of the neck, the cone will actually be a lot higher as it mounts to the top of the lid</p>
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<p>semi finished, but I stole the neck for the arture fuente build, so i have to make another</p>
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<p>so I guess it depends on how deep your box is as well, I made mine so I wouldn't have that issue</p>
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