All Discussions Tagged 'best?' - Cigar Box Nation2024-03-29T10:09:48Zhttps://www.cigarboxnation.com/forum/topic/listForTag?tag=best%3F&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAmplifi'Confusion - What amp & What valves ?tag:www.cigarboxnation.com,2015-04-04:2592684:Topic:22754602015-04-04T10:44:03.796ZBUGGY (C)https://www.cigarboxnation.com/profile/407bug
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<p>I am after advise on what is the best smallish gigging amp.</p>
<p>So far this is what have learnt on the various experimental trials I have made,</p>
<p>for the right sounding amp. The problem is still not resolved can you help?</p>
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<p>1) Basic transistors amps can sound…</p>
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<p>I am after advise on what is the best smallish gigging amp.</p>
<p>So far this is what have learnt on the various experimental trials I have made,</p>
<p>for the right sounding amp. The problem is still not resolved can you help?</p>
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<p>1) Basic transistors amps can sound a bit flat</p>
<p>2) These sound way better with reverb</p>
<p>3) A valve in the circuit sound better (but the AX12 valve doesn't sound great)</p>
<p>4) This then lead me to combo amps with valve and effects</p>
<p>5) Valves sound better and more three dimensional, these need to be driven to get better distortion effect.</p>
<p>6) If you drive valves with valves pedals or over drive pedals this helps them come alive</p>
<p>7) But this leads you to what valves, I have tried some EL84 mullards and these sound ok </p>
<p>What valves have the best sound? 6v6, El84, etc?</p>
<p>Valve circuits can be noisey and lots of hiss and buzz for recording</p>
<p>8) This then lead me to "Rat amps" which modify valve amps and remove the noise from the circuit for recording</p>
<p>and offer power scaling, so you can turn it down but still sound crunchy. These are great see my Bugera rat amp and rat Grainger (Epiphone copy) amps (small 5 watt amps).</p>
<p>9) External speakers sound better than combo speakers, a 12inch has more bass then a 10" and pushes air</p>
<p>this is about all you would want to carry as they weight. </p>
<p>However a four 10" also sound possibly better than 1 x 12" but vary depending on makes.( leads you to Jensen and vintage speakers etc)</p>
<p>10) I have no found some 2 no 2 x 10 inch 80's jap celestrians ( £20 each bargain.. see bugstack!) which sound pretty darn good (I may have preferred 2 x 12's if it was a big venue but still lightish and portable)</p>
<p>11) But am now back to the issue of what head unit to drive them with.</p>
<p>12) I like the sounds of Orange valve amps but these have no reverb (unless you go to stupid money), </p>
<p>13) Hence I am on the quest for best valves to use and what second hand head to aim for?.</p>
<p>I hear Messa boogey are very good, but they may be beyond my badly listed ebay bargain bucket budget.</p>
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<p>Hence I'm after any tips to the way to go on getting that Holy grail of sound...</p>
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<p>I know the old Marshall stuff used to use a certain type of valve in old vintage stuff, but what is the holy grail of amp heads for sound? EC83 and EL84?</p>
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<p>Now how can you get this on the cheap?. </p>
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<p>Here is some of my experimentation with amps etc:</p>
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<p>Your help and ideas are greatly appreciated..</p>
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