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Permalink Reply by Tommy Phillips on June 30, 2015 at 4:15am

I just recently finished a blog post on a similar topic:  the difference between art and craft.

John Roberts objects to applying "Luther" to makers of cigar box guitars and similar instruments.

Perhaps this is based on maintaining some minimum standard of quality. 

• I object to that on the principle that such a standard is impossible to maintain.  You can always take an example that clearly meets the standard, and a series of examples, each of just a little lower quality, and at some point start a fight between two experts about where the series no longer meets the standard.

Perhaps it is based on the attitude of CBG makers that we are often, but not always, intentionally crafting instruments with a folk sound and appearance, less smooth and polished than "professional" guitars. 

• I object to that on the principle that it begs the questions of quality and sophistication.  That is, it assumes that CBG makers and players are less sophisticated, less talented, less practiced than players of purpose-built, girl-shaped 6-string or 12-string guitars.  That is certainly true of some of us (myself included), but the top tiers of CBG makers and players are displaying a level of sophistication comparable to the top tiers of traditional guitar makers and players.  And the bottom tiers of both communities are equally awkward.

Bottom line: the dictionary definition of "luthier" is "maker of stringed instruments."  We qualify.  If you want to add "primal" or "folk" or "green" or "recycled" or "repurposed" as an adjective, fine.  If you don't, fine.

Oh, and by the way, saying that a seamstress is a lower level than a tailor is just plain sexist.  Get over it.  Look at the definitions.

One last thing:  The Guild of American Luthiers would probably not let us join.  That's okay, the popular kid clique in high school didn't like me, either.  It never bothered me that I didn't meet their standards, and it doesn't bother me that I don't meet GAL standards.  I measure myself by my own standards.

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Permalink Reply by Thomas "Duck" Petry on June 30, 2015 at 7:26am

Simple quote from you blog post...“skill or ability to make or do something.”  The bottom line is that "skill" is a very subjective thing and it all turns into an esoteric decision as to at what level of skill, what title applies. Some folks build the basic stick and box style CBG and others build a Stratocaster with a cigar box as the body. Some take pride in the fact that they cut and formed all of the parts and others tale pride in only buying the best components to make their masterpieces from.

I must agree with your statement Tommy, "I measure myself by my own standards" is a good concept to live by. If we are pleased with the results of our builds it really doesn't matter what the other folks think anyway.

As for titles, they really don't matter much.

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Permalink Reply by Marcus Darwell on June 18, 2015 at 4:15am

You don't need a degree in sociology to call yourself a sociologist....unless you want to teach at a university.......and ditto for other disciplines. At the same time there are far too many people with fancy degrees who actually know diddly-squat.....they are usually teachers!

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Permalink Reply by Michael Fred Johnson on June 13, 2015 at 3:53am

When people ask me what I do in my shed I tell them I make sawdust.However when I made my lute the sawdust was of a much higher calibre !

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Permalink Reply by ChickenboneJohn on June 13, 2015 at 5:56am

Freakin' A!! A real lute, that's something else...serious serious work there, well done.

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Permalink Reply by john mackay on June 14, 2015 at 6:17am

bloody elly johnny I nearly spat ma coffee..

not like you to make a comment ones make.

keep up ol fellalol

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Permalink Reply by Ron "Oily" Sprague on June 13, 2015 at 7:52am

Ohhhhhh, that's beauty...

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Permalink Reply by gary sheldon on June 13, 2015 at 8:34am

Yes, you generated some classy sawdust when you built that one!  Love that sound hole.

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Permalink Reply by John Roberts on June 13, 2015 at 9:08am

Michael Fred Johnson:

As you know from my previous post, I am a fan of Lutes. Is this a kit?

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Permalink Reply by Michael Fred Johnson on June 14, 2015 at 1:09am

Thanks CBJ,Ron,Gary and Mark.

No John it is not built from a kit it's based on a drawing of a 16th C. instrument with some modifications.

e.g. I didn't care for the traditional way of fixing a lute neck to the bowl i.e. a big nail through the neck block.However I did like the idea of using glued strips of linen to reinforce the bowl joints,my beloved very kindly sacrificed her nice linen skirt.

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Permalink Reply by John Roberts on June 14, 2015 at 8:31am

Michael Fred Johnson:

It is a beautiful job. Congratulations.

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Permalink Reply by Marcus Darwell on June 18, 2015 at 4:17am

but is he a luthier?????

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